/ http://www.slideshare.net/images/logo.gif / 際際滷Share feed for 際際滷shows by User: joelmsuganob https://cdn.slidesharecdn.com/profile-photo-joelmsuganob-48x48.jpg?cb=1523201874 My grandma's family name at father side is Leopoldo. And my grandma's family name at mother side is Saren. So, both Saren and Leopoldo are my relatives.