際際滷

際際滷Share a Scribd company logo
Clojure in US vs Europe
A First-hand Experience Report
Presented at Amsterdam Clojure Meetup July 2015 by Paul Lam (@Quantisan)
Pauls Clojure work history
Boston
S.
F.
2012 2013 20152014
London
Boston Clojure Meetup
Spokepoint
YC
Startup
uSwitch
Incanter
Cascalog
Tour
This City is what it is because our citizens are what they are
- Plato
My Airbnb host in The Hague
 Traveled across the
world since the 60s
 by ships
 Rigged a rainwater
collection system for
her garden
London
A London Clojurian You Might Meet
 Java developer from
a bank in a prior life
 With a young family
living in Barnet
 Kite-surfing in
Brighton
 Knows every pub in
the city
My life as a Clojurian in London
Likes:
 First Londoners Ive met
were from the Clojure
Dojo
 Received lots of support
from Clojure people in
and out of workplace
 Well connected to the
rest of European Clojure
groups
Dislikes:
 Cant afford to buy a flat
in London
 Work visa sponsorship
rules out working at
newer companies or
doing a startup
Clojure Shops in London
https://groups.google.com/forum/#!forum/london-clojurians
https://groups.google.com/forum/#!forum/london-clojurian-jobs
Mastodon C
Cambridge, MA
A Cambridge Clojurian You Might Meet
 Graduated from both
MIT and Harvard
 Works on
processing
genomics data
 Actually uses
Common Lisp and
Haskell
 Family with kids
living in the South
Shore
My life as a Clojurian in Cambridge
Likes:
 Ran into Richard
Stallman on my first
weekend
 Met many people
solving hard problems
 Small but close-knit
community
 Swimming or bouldering
at lunch
Dislikes:
 Few Clojure teams
 Am not one of the
students in the more
than 100 colleges in
greater Boston area
Clojure Shops in Greater Boston Area
http://www.meetup.com/Boston-Clojure-Group/
San Francisco
A SF Clojurian You Might Meet
My life as a Clojurian in San Francisco
Likes:
 Even my non-tech
clients have heard about
Clojure
 #1 startup ecosystem
 mentoring
 funding
 collaborating
 3-4 Clojure meetups in a
month
 No shortage of services
catering to SV geeky
lifestyle
Dislikes:
 Rent of my room is
same as my whole flat in
London
 Drinking the startup
Kool-Aid
 Insulated from the non-
tech world
Clojure shops in San Francisco
http://www.meetup.com/The-Bay-Area-Clojure-User-Group/
More that I dont know about
Summary
Choose London if you ...
 Prefer European lifestyle
 Wants to work for a mid size company
 Build a European presence
Choose Boston if you ...
 Want to use Clojure for hard science or
education technologies
Choose San Francisco if you ...
 Wants to drink the startup kool-aid
 Be part of a massive Clojure community
Other Clojure hotspots?
Amsterdam?
Contact
Paul Lam
 paul@quantisan.com
 @Quantisan
Next talk in Berlin on 15 July, Yet Another Startup Built on Clojure(Script)

More Related Content

Clojure in US vs Europe

  • 1. Clojure in US vs Europe A First-hand Experience Report Presented at Amsterdam Clojure Meetup July 2015 by Paul Lam (@Quantisan)
  • 2. Pauls Clojure work history Boston S. F. 2012 2013 20152014 London Boston Clojure Meetup Spokepoint YC Startup uSwitch Incanter Cascalog Tour
  • 3. This City is what it is because our citizens are what they are - Plato
  • 4. My Airbnb host in The Hague Traveled across the world since the 60s by ships Rigged a rainwater collection system for her garden
  • 6. A London Clojurian You Might Meet Java developer from a bank in a prior life With a young family living in Barnet Kite-surfing in Brighton Knows every pub in the city
  • 7. My life as a Clojurian in London Likes: First Londoners Ive met were from the Clojure Dojo Received lots of support from Clojure people in and out of workplace Well connected to the rest of European Clojure groups Dislikes: Cant afford to buy a flat in London Work visa sponsorship rules out working at newer companies or doing a startup
  • 8. Clojure Shops in London https://groups.google.com/forum/#!forum/london-clojurians https://groups.google.com/forum/#!forum/london-clojurian-jobs Mastodon C
  • 10. A Cambridge Clojurian You Might Meet Graduated from both MIT and Harvard Works on processing genomics data Actually uses Common Lisp and Haskell Family with kids living in the South Shore
  • 11. My life as a Clojurian in Cambridge Likes: Ran into Richard Stallman on my first weekend Met many people solving hard problems Small but close-knit community Swimming or bouldering at lunch Dislikes: Few Clojure teams Am not one of the students in the more than 100 colleges in greater Boston area
  • 12. Clojure Shops in Greater Boston Area http://www.meetup.com/Boston-Clojure-Group/
  • 14. A SF Clojurian You Might Meet
  • 15. My life as a Clojurian in San Francisco Likes: Even my non-tech clients have heard about Clojure #1 startup ecosystem mentoring funding collaborating 3-4 Clojure meetups in a month No shortage of services catering to SV geeky lifestyle Dislikes: Rent of my room is same as my whole flat in London Drinking the startup Kool-Aid Insulated from the non- tech world
  • 16. Clojure shops in San Francisco http://www.meetup.com/The-Bay-Area-Clojure-User-Group/ More that I dont know about
  • 18. Choose London if you ... Prefer European lifestyle Wants to work for a mid size company Build a European presence
  • 19. Choose Boston if you ... Want to use Clojure for hard science or education technologies
  • 20. Choose San Francisco if you ... Wants to drink the startup kool-aid Be part of a massive Clojure community
  • 22. Contact Paul Lam paul@quantisan.com @Quantisan Next talk in Berlin on 15 July, Yet Another Startup Built on Clojure(Script)