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Hiroki Sayama
Binghamton University, State University of New York
sayama@binghamton.edu
https://xkcd.com/1827/
2
  is a mode of research by
teams or individuals that
integrates information, data,
techniques, tools, perspectives,
concepts, and/or theories from
two or more disciplines or
bodies of specialized knowledge
to advance fundamental
understanding or to solve
problems whose solutions are
beyond the scope of a single
discipline or area of research
practice.
-- National Academies Report
3
Una chimera by Jacopo Ligozzi (15471627)
4
 Interdisciplinary sounds cool!
 (At least to students,
university admins and
funding agencies)
 There is a societal demand for
them (?)
 New academic programs are
often produced by mixing
faculty from multiple disciplines
 You simply cant find a classic
disciplinary job
5
Image:https://bit.ly/2Ch0ez9
 B.Sc., M.Sc. & D.Sc., all in Information Science (= Computer
Science) at the University of Tokyo
 Doctoral dissertation on constructing evolutionary systems in
deterministic cellular automata
 Postdoc at NECSI, working with physicists, ecologists,
biologists, engineers, mathematicians, chemists, etc.
 First position: Dept. of Human Communication at UEC
 Second position: Dept. of Bioengineering, Binghamton
 Third position: Dept. of Systems Science and Industrial
Engineering, Binghamton
 Additional position: School of Commerce,Waseda University
6
Artificial Life (10)
Complexity (5)
Physical Review E (5)
Physical Review Letters (3)
Scientific Reports (2)
PLOS ONE (2)
Journal of Complex Networks (2)
Leadership Quarterly (2)
Complicity: An International of
Complexity and Education (2)
New Journal of Physics
Brazilian Journal of Physics
Communications in Nonlinear
Science and Numerical Simulation
Applied Network Science
Computers and Mathematics with
Applications
Natural Computing
BioSystems
Journal of Theoretical Biology
Expert Systems with Applications
IEEE Intelligent Systems
IEEE Computational Intelligence
Magazine
IEEE Transactions on Evolutionary
Computation
IEEE Transactions on Cognitive and
Developmental Systems
Communications of the ACM
IPSJ Transactions
IPSJ Transactions SIG-TOM
Transactions of the JSAI
Organizational Research Methods
Computational and Mathematical
Organization Theory
Organizational Psychology Review
Current Research in Social
Psychology
Journal of Mathematical Psychology
Group Decision and Negotiation
Journal of Artificial Societies and
Social Simulation
Discrete Applied Mathematics
Conservation Biology
NeuroImage
Brain Informatics
Innovations in Clinical
Neuroscience
Psychological Medicine
Clinical Psychological Science
Schizophrenia Bulletin
Complex Adaptive Systems
Modeling
Complex & Intelligent Systems
International Journal of Parallel,
Emergent and Distributed Systems
Concurrent Engineering
Journal of the Society for Art and
Science
PLOS Currents: Outbreaks
PeerJ
FORMA
Journal of Three Dimensional
Images
http://bingweb.binghamton.edu/~sayama/pub.html?Type 7
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How to survive as an interdisciplinary being
 Who you are
 What you do
 Why it is important (to them)
10
A QUESTION I RECEIVED AT ALIFE 2018
I obtained my PhD in Interdisciplinary
Studies.When I applied to a faculty position
at XXX University,they asked me at the
interview,Can you teach Operating
Systems?
Although I am good at computers and
computer programming,I am not a
computer scientist.How should I have
answered that question?
11
 Reaching the right venue/audience is extremely difficult
 Cultural/methodological differences
 Jargon
 Never-ending literature review
 Rejection, rejection, rejection
12
EXAMPLE
 A paper first written and submitted to a journal in 2009;
rejected (2010)
 Resubmit & reject (2012)
 Resubmit (2012) -> Revise & Resubmit (2013) -> sucked into
an editorial black hole for 12 months -> eventually withdrawn
(2014)
 Resubmits & Rejects (2015, 2016, 2018, 2018)
 We snapped and fought back to the editor/reviewer
 Currently under review
13
 Reaching the right funding program
is (again) extremely difficult
 Proposals may be reviewed by panels
who know NOTHING about what you do
 E.g.Bioengineering in my case
 Need to satisfy ALL of those domain
experts
 Need to give reasons for funding to ALL
divisions involved
 All $$$s have strings attached
14
15
EXAMPLE
 ONR MURI 2007 rejected
 ONR MURI 2008 rejected
 LM 2008 rejected
 ONR MURI 2009 rejected
 NSF RI 2009 rejected
 ONR 2009 rejected
 NSF RI 2010 rejected
 NSF BECS 2010 rejected
 NSF CAREER 2010 rejected
 NSF CAREER 2011 rejected
 JSMF 2012 rejected
 (and perhaps more)
 NSF RI 2013 accepted
16
PEOPLE WONT
UNDERSTAND YOU
How to survive as an interdisciplinary being
 People just want simple labeling
 I am a computer scientist (by training).
 Department of Bioengineering
-> Collective Dynamics of Complex
Systems Research Group
 People dont give a f--- who you are or what
you do
 It is your job to make them pay attention
and support you; practice it!
19
 Being different gives you values
 Focus on and highlight your
uniqueness
 Dont try to hide or blend in
 Develop good narratives of how
you are unique, how it can be
useful, and for what/whom
20
 Stuff you learned at
college (even for
PhD) will be useless
in no time
 Changing your
identity and brand
is perfectly fine
 Continuous change
and adaptation can
also be part of your
identity
21
 Find the right people
 Take time to learn
 Respect each other
 Give (and take will come
later -- be patient)
 (But collaboration shouldnt
take up 100% of your time)
22
23
 Satisfy people who have power to
influence your life/career
 Dissertation committee
 Editors, reviewers
 Program officers, grant panels
 Tenure committee, Department Chairs,
Dean, University admins
 Satisfy your own desire and curiosity
 This is why you are who you are
 Evenings and weekends are for this!
 For the academic homeless,
the whole world is their
home
 Yes, I can do that
 Do new stuff and you will
always gain something
24
 Your family and
friends
 Your collaborators
 Your students & staff
 Your audience
 (Even your reviewers,
maybe)
 They will be of your
help when needed
 Cherish your home
 even if you think
you are academically
homeless
25
8. ENJOY INTERDISCIPLINARY LIFE
 Freedom!
 Fun to learn you things and gain a big picture
 Benefit from cross-fertilization of ideas
 Can have access to low-hanging fruits
 Can lead to more diverse career directions
It is a natural way of being, after all
26
By Graham Moore https://youtu.be/xbNJq90t0Wk 27
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  • 1. Hiroki Sayama Binghamton University, State University of New York sayama@binghamton.edu
  • 3. is a mode of research by teams or individuals that integrates information, data, techniques, tools, perspectives, concepts, and/or theories from two or more disciplines or bodies of specialized knowledge to advance fundamental understanding or to solve problems whose solutions are beyond the scope of a single discipline or area of research practice. -- National Academies Report 3
  • 4. Una chimera by Jacopo Ligozzi (15471627) 4
  • 5. Interdisciplinary sounds cool! (At least to students, university admins and funding agencies) There is a societal demand for them (?) New academic programs are often produced by mixing faculty from multiple disciplines You simply cant find a classic disciplinary job 5 Image:https://bit.ly/2Ch0ez9
  • 6. B.Sc., M.Sc. & D.Sc., all in Information Science (= Computer Science) at the University of Tokyo Doctoral dissertation on constructing evolutionary systems in deterministic cellular automata Postdoc at NECSI, working with physicists, ecologists, biologists, engineers, mathematicians, chemists, etc. First position: Dept. of Human Communication at UEC Second position: Dept. of Bioengineering, Binghamton Third position: Dept. of Systems Science and Industrial Engineering, Binghamton Additional position: School of Commerce,Waseda University 6
  • 7. Artificial Life (10) Complexity (5) Physical Review E (5) Physical Review Letters (3) Scientific Reports (2) PLOS ONE (2) Journal of Complex Networks (2) Leadership Quarterly (2) Complicity: An International of Complexity and Education (2) New Journal of Physics Brazilian Journal of Physics Communications in Nonlinear Science and Numerical Simulation Applied Network Science Computers and Mathematics with Applications Natural Computing BioSystems Journal of Theoretical Biology Expert Systems with Applications IEEE Intelligent Systems IEEE Computational Intelligence Magazine IEEE Transactions on Evolutionary Computation IEEE Transactions on Cognitive and Developmental Systems Communications of the ACM IPSJ Transactions IPSJ Transactions SIG-TOM Transactions of the JSAI Organizational Research Methods Computational and Mathematical Organization Theory Organizational Psychology Review Current Research in Social Psychology Journal of Mathematical Psychology Group Decision and Negotiation Journal of Artificial Societies and Social Simulation Discrete Applied Mathematics Conservation Biology NeuroImage Brain Informatics Innovations in Clinical Neuroscience Psychological Medicine Clinical Psychological Science Schizophrenia Bulletin Complex Adaptive Systems Modeling Complex & Intelligent Systems International Journal of Parallel, Emergent and Distributed Systems Concurrent Engineering Journal of the Society for Art and Science PLOS Currents: Outbreaks PeerJ FORMA Journal of Three Dimensional Images http://bingweb.binghamton.edu/~sayama/pub.html?Type 7
  • 10. Who you are What you do Why it is important (to them) 10
  • 11. A QUESTION I RECEIVED AT ALIFE 2018 I obtained my PhD in Interdisciplinary Studies.When I applied to a faculty position at XXX University,they asked me at the interview,Can you teach Operating Systems? Although I am good at computers and computer programming,I am not a computer scientist.How should I have answered that question? 11
  • 12. Reaching the right venue/audience is extremely difficult Cultural/methodological differences Jargon Never-ending literature review Rejection, rejection, rejection 12
  • 13. EXAMPLE A paper first written and submitted to a journal in 2009; rejected (2010) Resubmit & reject (2012) Resubmit (2012) -> Revise & Resubmit (2013) -> sucked into an editorial black hole for 12 months -> eventually withdrawn (2014) Resubmits & Rejects (2015, 2016, 2018, 2018) We snapped and fought back to the editor/reviewer Currently under review 13
  • 14. Reaching the right funding program is (again) extremely difficult Proposals may be reviewed by panels who know NOTHING about what you do E.g.Bioengineering in my case Need to satisfy ALL of those domain experts Need to give reasons for funding to ALL divisions involved All $$$s have strings attached 14
  • 15. 15
  • 16. EXAMPLE ONR MURI 2007 rejected ONR MURI 2008 rejected LM 2008 rejected ONR MURI 2009 rejected NSF RI 2009 rejected ONR 2009 rejected NSF RI 2010 rejected NSF BECS 2010 rejected NSF CAREER 2010 rejected NSF CAREER 2011 rejected JSMF 2012 rejected (and perhaps more) NSF RI 2013 accepted 16
  • 19. People just want simple labeling I am a computer scientist (by training). Department of Bioengineering -> Collective Dynamics of Complex Systems Research Group People dont give a f--- who you are or what you do It is your job to make them pay attention and support you; practice it! 19
  • 20. Being different gives you values Focus on and highlight your uniqueness Dont try to hide or blend in Develop good narratives of how you are unique, how it can be useful, and for what/whom 20
  • 21. Stuff you learned at college (even for PhD) will be useless in no time Changing your identity and brand is perfectly fine Continuous change and adaptation can also be part of your identity 21
  • 22. Find the right people Take time to learn Respect each other Give (and take will come later -- be patient) (But collaboration shouldnt take up 100% of your time) 22
  • 23. 23 Satisfy people who have power to influence your life/career Dissertation committee Editors, reviewers Program officers, grant panels Tenure committee, Department Chairs, Dean, University admins Satisfy your own desire and curiosity This is why you are who you are Evenings and weekends are for this!
  • 24. For the academic homeless, the whole world is their home Yes, I can do that Do new stuff and you will always gain something 24
  • 25. Your family and friends Your collaborators Your students & staff Your audience (Even your reviewers, maybe) They will be of your help when needed Cherish your home even if you think you are academically homeless 25
  • 26. 8. ENJOY INTERDISCIPLINARY LIFE Freedom! Fun to learn you things and gain a big picture Benefit from cross-fertilization of ideas Can have access to low-hanging fruits Can lead to more diverse career directions It is a natural way of being, after all 26
  • 27. By Graham Moore https://youtu.be/xbNJq90t0Wk 27