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鴛稼岳姻看糸顎界庄稼乙


      Dawn Trautman
      LutheranLifeCoach.com




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The Practice Discipleship Initiative




                                         ELCA Youth Ministry Network
                                       The ELCA & its Youth Gathering
                                                              Synods
                                               Partner Organizations


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7 Webinars
  1. Faith Formation in a Missional Age
  2.If Necessary, Use Words
  3. Theories of Culture
  4. Working Together in Solidarity
  5. Inculturating the Gospel
  6. Dog Eating Chicken
  7. Going Public




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鴛稼岳姻看糸顎界庄稼乙
          Dr. Hans Wiersma
          Augsburg College, Minneapolis, Minnesota
          augsburg.edu



          If Necessary, Use
          Words




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When Necessary, Use Words?
Verbum油Dei油Theology for Right Now


   a Workshop of the ELCAYMNet Practice Discipleship Initiative

                       with Hans Wiersma

                Augsburg College, Minneapolis MN




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Crypt油of油St.油Francis
        Assisi,油Italy
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Go Niners!




The油original油St.油Francesco油Mission油(aka油Mission油Dolores)油after油the油1906油Quake

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The油Simpsons
Homer the Heretic




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This will
probably get
more play if
I say its by
St. Francis.




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No brother should preach
contrary to the form and
regulations of the holy Church
unless he has been permitted by
his minister  However, all the
brothers should preach with their
deeds.
        Rule of St. Francis, 1221 version




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Preach the
Gospel at all
    times.
If necessary,
 use words?




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What is
better? That I
should spend
 my time in
prayer or that
 I should go
   around
 preaching?




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1.
Backlash       3. Less
 against      need for
political    communi
 agenda      ty locales


 2. Later
starts for   4. More
marriage     health,
   and       wealth,
  family     security



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[The Internet is] a religion destroyer as much
as anything else weve ever seenopen
access to information, the ability to prove
your pastors wrong, the overwhelming
number of atheists who make their case
onlinehow is that not a force to be
reckoned with?
                                     Hemant Mehta

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To outsiders, the Church is:
 an organized religion with
   a political agenda
1. judgmental and negative
2. dominated by males and
   an oppressor of females
3. homophobic
4. arrogantly claims that all
   other religions are wrong
5. full of fundamentalists who
   take the whole Bible
   literally
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Quiz
Time!

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Question油1:油油According to the Augsburg Confession
(art. V, German text), in order that we might obtain
justifying faith, what did God do?

a. Institutum est ministerium docendi Evangelii et
   porrigendi Sacramenta.
b. Gott hat das Predigtamt eingesetzt, das Evangelium
   und die Sakramente gegeben.
c. God instituted the office of preaching, giving the
   gospel and the sacraments (English translation).
d. Du, du, liegst mir in Herzen; du, du, liegst mir in
   Sinn


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Question油1:油油According to the Augsburg Confession
(art. V, German text), in order that we might obtain
justifying faith, what did God do?

a. Institutum est ministerium docendi Evangelii et
   porrigendi Sacramenta.
b. Gott hat das Predigtamt eingesetzt, das Evangelium
   und die Sakramente gegeben.
c. God instituted the office of preaching, giving the
   gospel and the sacraments (English translation).
d. Du, du, liegst mir in Herzen; du, du, liegst mir in
   Sinn


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FOR DISCUSSION

Do we need to rethink what the preaching
office is?

Can giving the gospel mean more than
Words only, in much the same way that the
Sacraments are more than words only?




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Question油2: According to the Augsburg Confession
(Art. 6), the faith produced by giving the Gospel is


a. not yet fully formed.
b. needs to be proven by doing good works.
c. should yield good fruit or is bound to produce good
   fruits.
d. irrational, foolish.




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Question油2: According to the Augsburg Confession
(Art. 6), the faith produced by giving the Gospel is


a. not yet fully formed.
b. needs to be proven by doing good works.
c. should yield good fruit or is bound to produce good
   fruits.
d. irrational, foolish.




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FOR DISCUSSION

What is the difference between a faith that
should produce good fruit and a faith that is
bound to produce good fruit?

(Note: Augsburg Confession, Article Six,
makes clear that good fruit means good
works.)




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Question油3:油油According to Luthers Large
Catechism, the reason we take such care to preach
on the catechism frequently is

a.   to impress it upon our young people
b.   so that it may penetrate deeply into their minds
c.   so that it may remain fixed in their memories
d.   Wait. What? Were supposed to preach on the
     Catechism frequently?




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Question油3:油油According to Luthers Large
Catechism, the reason we take such care to
preach on the catechism frequently is

a.   to impress it upon our young people
b.   so that it may penetrate deeply into their minds
c.   so that it may remain fixed in their memories
d.   Wait. What? Were supposed to preach on the
     Catechism frequently?




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FOR DISCUSSION

Isnt it time to proclaim clearly that the
Catechism is concerned with more than just
what one thinks or says but also what one
does?
a.Can the same be said of the Catechisms
other sections (Creed, Prayer, Sacraments)?
b.By neglecting catechetical preaching, have
we truncated the original Lutheran vision for
the preaching office and for teaching the
gospel?
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Question油4:油油According to Luthers Small Catechism,
what are believers redeemed and set free for?


a.   To become Franciscans.
b.   To belong to Christ.
c.   To live in Christs Kingdom.
d.   To serve Christ (in ever-lasting righteousness,
     innocence, and blessedness).




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Question油4:油油According to Luthers Small Catechism,
what are believers redeemed and set free for?


a.   To become Franciscans.
b.   To belong to Christ.
c.   To live in Christs Kingdom.
d.   To serve Christ (in ever-lasting righteousness,
     innocence, and blessedness).




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FOR DISCUSSION

Has the Lutheran teaching of justification by
faith (or any other teaching of justification)
emphasized what believers are saved from
or what believers are saved for?
a.What kind of changes would you like to see
in our pulpits so that the hearers of Lutheran
sermons will be taught about freedom from
as well as freedom for?


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Verbum Dei
 = Word of
   God.
What Does
This Mean??




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THESIS ONE

We can learn much from the fake St
Francis Quotation. AND we can learn
much from the real St. Francis.




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THESIS TWO

If the Lutheran understanding is that
good fruit (good works) are bound to
follow the faith that results from
preaching, perhaps we can also say that
actions that preach follow words
that preach.

Furthermore, there is also a way to
understand that words that preach
follow actions that preach.
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THESIS THREE

We have a great resource for how to
live lives that preach: its called the
Small Catechism (esp. the Ten
Commandments section).




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THESIS FOUR

Not only should we enhance our
understanding of the preached Word,
we should also enhance our
understanding of the preaching office.




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Be油Doers油of油the油Word油and油not油
merely油hearers.
                      James 1:22




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Be油Hearers油of油the油Word油and油
not油merely油doers.
             a Lutheran Take on James 1:22




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ThoughtsQuestions
Reflections




  Hans Wiersma                 Dawn Trautman

    Please type your questions or comments into the
   question box on your screen. Well try to get to as
               many of them as we can.                   50
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Webinar




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Next Practice Discipleship Webinar

                     Guest:   Dr. Nathan Frambach
                     From:     Wartburg Seminary
                     Date:    February 3, 2013
                     Time:    3pm Central Time
                     Topic:   Theories of Culture




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Next 3rdTuesday Conversation
                    Guest: Dr. Andrew Root
                    Date: February 19, 2013
                    Time: 1pm Central Time
                    Topic: Taking Theology to Youth
                    Ministry




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Pd2 webinar 2 hans wiersma ppt

  • 1. Welcome! The Practice Discipleship Initiative 1 3 , 20 20 a ry nu Ja 1
  • 2. 鴛稼岳姻看糸顎界庄稼乙 Dawn Trautman LutheranLifeCoach.com 2
  • 3. The Practice Discipleship Initiative ELCA Youth Ministry Network The ELCA & its Youth Gathering Synods Partner Organizations 3
  • 4. 7 Webinars 1. Faith Formation in a Missional Age 2.If Necessary, Use Words 3. Theories of Culture 4. Working Together in Solidarity 5. Inculturating the Gospel 6. Dog Eating Chicken 7. Going Public 4
  • 5. 鴛稼岳姻看糸顎界庄稼乙 Dr. Hans Wiersma Augsburg College, Minneapolis, Minnesota augsburg.edu If Necessary, Use Words 5
  • 6. When Necessary, Use Words? Verbum油Dei油Theology for Right Now a Workshop of the ELCAYMNet Practice Discipleship Initiative with Hans Wiersma Augsburg College, Minneapolis MN 際際滷
  • 7. Crypt油of油St.油Francis Assisi,油Italy 際際滷
  • 13. This will probably get more play if I say its by St. Francis. 際際滷
  • 14. No brother should preach contrary to the form and regulations of the holy Church unless he has been permitted by his minister However, all the brothers should preach with their deeds. Rule of St. Francis, 1221 version 際際滷
  • 15. Preach the Gospel at all times. If necessary, use words? 際際滷
  • 16. What is better? That I should spend my time in prayer or that I should go around preaching? 際際滷
  • 22. 1. Backlash 3. Less against need for political communi agenda ty locales 2. Later starts for 4. More marriage health, and wealth, family security 際際滷
  • 24. [The Internet is] a religion destroyer as much as anything else weve ever seenopen access to information, the ability to prove your pastors wrong, the overwhelming number of atheists who make their case onlinehow is that not a force to be reckoned with? Hemant Mehta 際際滷
  • 25. To outsiders, the Church is: an organized religion with a political agenda 1. judgmental and negative 2. dominated by males and an oppressor of females 3. homophobic 4. arrogantly claims that all other religions are wrong 5. full of fundamentalists who take the whole Bible literally 際際滷
  • 29. Quiz Time! 際際滷
  • 30. Question油1:油油According to the Augsburg Confession (art. V, German text), in order that we might obtain justifying faith, what did God do? a. Institutum est ministerium docendi Evangelii et porrigendi Sacramenta. b. Gott hat das Predigtamt eingesetzt, das Evangelium und die Sakramente gegeben. c. God instituted the office of preaching, giving the gospel and the sacraments (English translation). d. Du, du, liegst mir in Herzen; du, du, liegst mir in Sinn 際際滷
  • 31. Question油1:油油According to the Augsburg Confession (art. V, German text), in order that we might obtain justifying faith, what did God do? a. Institutum est ministerium docendi Evangelii et porrigendi Sacramenta. b. Gott hat das Predigtamt eingesetzt, das Evangelium und die Sakramente gegeben. c. God instituted the office of preaching, giving the gospel and the sacraments (English translation). d. Du, du, liegst mir in Herzen; du, du, liegst mir in Sinn 際際滷
  • 32. FOR DISCUSSION Do we need to rethink what the preaching office is? Can giving the gospel mean more than Words only, in much the same way that the Sacraments are more than words only? 際際滷
  • 33. Question油2: According to the Augsburg Confession (Art. 6), the faith produced by giving the Gospel is a. not yet fully formed. b. needs to be proven by doing good works. c. should yield good fruit or is bound to produce good fruits. d. irrational, foolish. 際際滷
  • 34. Question油2: According to the Augsburg Confession (Art. 6), the faith produced by giving the Gospel is a. not yet fully formed. b. needs to be proven by doing good works. c. should yield good fruit or is bound to produce good fruits. d. irrational, foolish. 際際滷
  • 35. FOR DISCUSSION What is the difference between a faith that should produce good fruit and a faith that is bound to produce good fruit? (Note: Augsburg Confession, Article Six, makes clear that good fruit means good works.) 際際滷
  • 36. Question油3:油油According to Luthers Large Catechism, the reason we take such care to preach on the catechism frequently is a. to impress it upon our young people b. so that it may penetrate deeply into their minds c. so that it may remain fixed in their memories d. Wait. What? Were supposed to preach on the Catechism frequently? 際際滷
  • 37. Question油3:油油According to Luthers Large Catechism, the reason we take such care to preach on the catechism frequently is a. to impress it upon our young people b. so that it may penetrate deeply into their minds c. so that it may remain fixed in their memories d. Wait. What? Were supposed to preach on the Catechism frequently? 際際滷
  • 38. FOR DISCUSSION Isnt it time to proclaim clearly that the Catechism is concerned with more than just what one thinks or says but also what one does? a.Can the same be said of the Catechisms other sections (Creed, Prayer, Sacraments)? b.By neglecting catechetical preaching, have we truncated the original Lutheran vision for the preaching office and for teaching the gospel? 際際滷
  • 39. Question油4:油油According to Luthers Small Catechism, what are believers redeemed and set free for? a. To become Franciscans. b. To belong to Christ. c. To live in Christs Kingdom. d. To serve Christ (in ever-lasting righteousness, innocence, and blessedness). 際際滷
  • 40. Question油4:油油According to Luthers Small Catechism, what are believers redeemed and set free for? a. To become Franciscans. b. To belong to Christ. c. To live in Christs Kingdom. d. To serve Christ (in ever-lasting righteousness, innocence, and blessedness). 際際滷
  • 41. FOR DISCUSSION Has the Lutheran teaching of justification by faith (or any other teaching of justification) emphasized what believers are saved from or what believers are saved for? a.What kind of changes would you like to see in our pulpits so that the hearers of Lutheran sermons will be taught about freedom from as well as freedom for? 際際滷
  • 43. Verbum Dei = Word of God. What Does This Mean?? 際際滷
  • 44. THESIS ONE We can learn much from the fake St Francis Quotation. AND we can learn much from the real St. Francis. 際際滷
  • 45. THESIS TWO If the Lutheran understanding is that good fruit (good works) are bound to follow the faith that results from preaching, perhaps we can also say that actions that preach follow words that preach. Furthermore, there is also a way to understand that words that preach follow actions that preach. 際際滷
  • 46. THESIS THREE We have a great resource for how to live lives that preach: its called the Small Catechism (esp. the Ten Commandments section). 際際滷
  • 47. THESIS FOUR Not only should we enhance our understanding of the preached Word, we should also enhance our understanding of the preaching office. 際際滷
  • 49. Be油Hearers油of油the油Word油and油 not油merely油doers. a Lutheran Take on James 1:22 際際滷
  • 50. ThoughtsQuestions Reflections Hans Wiersma Dawn Trautman Please type your questions or comments into the question box on your screen. Well try to get to as many of them as we can. 50
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