際際滷

際際滷Share a Scribd company logo
Teleste Proprietary. All rights reserved.
Possibilities and limitations of
the Extended Spectrum DOCSIS return path
Steve Condra
Senior Director, Engineering and Product Management
Teleste Intercept
Teleste Proprietary. All rights reserved.
Preface
2
From HFC standpoint
the higher upstream
capacity requires
DOCSIS 4.0 technology supports up to 10 Gbps speeds downstream capacity and up to 6 Gbps upstream
capacity, easily allowing for multi-gigabit symmetric services over HFC networks.
https://www.cablelabs.com/technologies/docsis-4-0-technology
Higher frequencies, higher gain, higher RF power
Advanced constellations (1K, 2K OFDM) requiring better RF performance
More advanced amplifiers (when N0)
 What more advanced amplifiers means, besides better RF performance 
 Why does the changing outdoor temperature become an additional challenge?
Teleste Proprietary. All rights reserved.
1K OFDM upstream (DOCSIS 3.1)
乞_ = 10 log10 10
乞駒_
10 +    10
駒
10
3
Modulation RPD upstream receive requirements (MER) CM upstream TX (MER)
1K OFDM 35.5 dB 44 dB
 In theory five cascaded amplifiers can meet this MER requirement easily
 CNR performance of an ESD amplifier is  55 dB for the upstream
Teleste Proprietary. All rights reserved.
1K OFDM upstream, amplifier clusters
4
 Noise cumulation (funneling), assumption: around 20 (4x5) amps below an RPD
 However, due to the changing outdoor temperature..
乞_ = 10 log10 10
乞駒_
10 + 4  5  10
駒
10  乞_  40 
CM
RPD
Teleste Proprietary. All rights reserved.
Test (from -4属F to 140属F )
5
17 dB@
1.2 GHz
20 dB@
1.2 GHz
26 dB@
1.2 GHz
23 dB@
1.2 GHz
Network
Analyzer
Heating Chamber
Coax: 100 ft = 2.83 dB @ 1.2 GHz, 100 ft = 1.07 dB @ 204 MHz
Note: Internal (but not external) temperature compensation always on
Teleste Proprietary. All rights reserved.
Upstream frequency responses
6
Frequency [MHz]
10 30 50 70 150 170 190 204 220
+140属F
+77属F reference
-4属F
18 dB
10 dB
14 dB
12 dB
16 dB
4
dB
1.5 dB
Teleste Proprietary. All rights reserved.
Consequences
7
Attenuation increases, modems have higher (if possible)
output level, at some point amplifiers are overloaded.
 Distortion  Lower MER
Attenuation decreases, modems have lower output level,
at some point input levels of amplifiers are too low.
 Noise rises  Lower MER
Teleste Proprietary. All rights reserved.
Proposal
8
17 dB@
1.2 GHz
20 dB@
1.2 GHz
26 dB@
1.2 GHz
23 dB@
1.2 GHz
RFF RFF RFF RFF RFF
Heating Chamber
Network
Analyzer
Note: Internal and external temperature compensation on
By following downstream changes,
we can make real-time upstream adjustments
Return path gain
Return path slope
 Return Follows Forward (RFF) = Return path ALSC
 Return path ALSC has been used successfully in Europe together with 204 MHz upstream
Teleste Proprietary. All rights reserved.
Upstream frequency responses (RFF ON)
9
Frequency [MHz]
10 30 50 70
18 dB
10 dB
14 dB
12 dB
16 dB
1 dB
1 dB
150 170 190 204 220
+140属F RFF ON
+77属F reference
-4属F RFF ON
Teleste Proprietary. All rights reserved.
Summary
1. As upstream frequencies rise, outdoor temperature changes cause return
path issues
2. Issues become visible above 100 MHz and problematic above 204 MHz
3. By following forward path changes (RFF), all seasonal maintenance visits
can be avoided
4. More information / results above 204 MHz will be published at fall
technical forum
10
Teleste Proprietary. All rights reserved.
For more information, please contact:
steve.condra@telesteintercept.com
11

More Related Content

Similar to Possibilities and limitations of Extended Spectrum DOCSIS return path (20)

Teleste power saving innovation - Reduce operational costs and save nature
Teleste power saving innovation - Reduce operational costs and save natureTeleste power saving innovation - Reduce operational costs and save nature
Teleste power saving innovation - Reduce operational costs and save nature
Teleste Corporation
002 c bandibucr22916
002 c bandibucr22916002 c bandibucr22916
002 c bandibucr22916
Fabio Gallegos
A pragmatic approach to Extended Spectrum DOCSIS: November 2020
A pragmatic approach to Extended Spectrum DOCSIS: November 2020A pragmatic approach to Extended Spectrum DOCSIS: November 2020
A pragmatic approach to Extended Spectrum DOCSIS: November 2020
Teleste Corporation
Digital Earth Station
Digital Earth Station  Digital Earth Station
Digital Earth Station
Susmita Pandey
Rt60 | Dewesoft
Rt60 | DewesoftRt60 | Dewesoft
Rt60 | Dewesoft
Dewesoft
N5AC 2014-10-11 Pacificon SDR Advances
N5AC 2014-10-11 Pacificon SDR AdvancesN5AC 2014-10-11 Pacificon SDR Advances
N5AC 2014-10-11 Pacificon SDR Advances
N5AC
Product Sheet Mesh Receiver Satellite Modem
Product Sheet Mesh Receiver Satellite ModemProduct Sheet Mesh Receiver Satellite Modem
Product Sheet Mesh Receiver Satellite Modem
ST Engineering iDirect
IMS-2010 Presentation
IMS-2010 PresentationIMS-2010 Presentation
IMS-2010 Presentation
Sushil Kumar
Sil dgcis themis_n_specifications_v1.0_beta
Sil dgcis themis_n_specifications_v1.0_betaSil dgcis themis_n_specifications_v1.0_beta
Sil dgcis themis_n_specifications_v1.0_beta
bonnaudfrederic
Hfc j system distortion calculation
Hfc j system distortion calculationHfc j system distortion calculation
Hfc j system distortion calculation
jose angel guzman lozano
AD8351.pdf
AD8351.pdfAD8351.pdf
AD8351.pdf
Ovaga Technologies Limited
Receiver Desense Common Issue
Receiver Desense Common IssueReceiver Desense Common Issue
Receiver Desense Common Issue
criterion123
3 g basics
3 g basics3 g basics
3 g basics
Saurabh Singh Tomar
Cambium epmp force 200 2.4 & 5 ghz spec sheet - info tech middle east
Cambium epmp force 200 2.4 &  5 ghz spec sheet - info tech middle eastCambium epmp force 200 2.4 &  5 ghz spec sheet - info tech middle east
Cambium epmp force 200 2.4 & 5 ghz spec sheet - info tech middle east
Ali Shoaee
RF Recording and Playback
RF Recording and PlaybackRF Recording and Playback
RF Recording and Playback
Dominique Fortin
GPS sensitivity questions and its HW RF consideration
GPS sensitivity questions and its HW RF considerationGPS sensitivity questions and its HW RF consideration
GPS sensitivity questions and its HW RF consideration
Pei-Che Chang
Iuwne10 S01 L06
Iuwne10 S01 L06Iuwne10 S01 L06
Iuwne10 S01 L06
Ravi Ranjan
Robokits gps 01
Robokits gps 01Robokits gps 01
Robokits gps 01
Jyoti Luhach
EE673+F14+T2+Project1+Final+Pres+r3rg
EE673+F14+T2+Project1+Final+Pres+r3rgEE673+F14+T2+Project1+Final+Pres+r3rg
EE673+F14+T2+Project1+Final+Pres+r3rg
Ashikur Rahman
AM Receivers
AM ReceiversAM Receivers
AM Receivers
Fredrick Kendrick
Teleste power saving innovation - Reduce operational costs and save nature
Teleste power saving innovation - Reduce operational costs and save natureTeleste power saving innovation - Reduce operational costs and save nature
Teleste power saving innovation - Reduce operational costs and save nature
Teleste Corporation
002 c bandibucr22916
002 c bandibucr22916002 c bandibucr22916
002 c bandibucr22916
Fabio Gallegos
A pragmatic approach to Extended Spectrum DOCSIS: November 2020
A pragmatic approach to Extended Spectrum DOCSIS: November 2020A pragmatic approach to Extended Spectrum DOCSIS: November 2020
A pragmatic approach to Extended Spectrum DOCSIS: November 2020
Teleste Corporation
Digital Earth Station
Digital Earth Station  Digital Earth Station
Digital Earth Station
Susmita Pandey
Rt60 | Dewesoft
Rt60 | DewesoftRt60 | Dewesoft
Rt60 | Dewesoft
Dewesoft
N5AC 2014-10-11 Pacificon SDR Advances
N5AC 2014-10-11 Pacificon SDR AdvancesN5AC 2014-10-11 Pacificon SDR Advances
N5AC 2014-10-11 Pacificon SDR Advances
N5AC
Product Sheet Mesh Receiver Satellite Modem
Product Sheet Mesh Receiver Satellite ModemProduct Sheet Mesh Receiver Satellite Modem
Product Sheet Mesh Receiver Satellite Modem
ST Engineering iDirect
IMS-2010 Presentation
IMS-2010 PresentationIMS-2010 Presentation
IMS-2010 Presentation
Sushil Kumar
Sil dgcis themis_n_specifications_v1.0_beta
Sil dgcis themis_n_specifications_v1.0_betaSil dgcis themis_n_specifications_v1.0_beta
Sil dgcis themis_n_specifications_v1.0_beta
bonnaudfrederic
Receiver Desense Common Issue
Receiver Desense Common IssueReceiver Desense Common Issue
Receiver Desense Common Issue
criterion123
Cambium epmp force 200 2.4 & 5 ghz spec sheet - info tech middle east
Cambium epmp force 200 2.4 &  5 ghz spec sheet - info tech middle eastCambium epmp force 200 2.4 &  5 ghz spec sheet - info tech middle east
Cambium epmp force 200 2.4 & 5 ghz spec sheet - info tech middle east
Ali Shoaee
RF Recording and Playback
RF Recording and PlaybackRF Recording and Playback
RF Recording and Playback
Dominique Fortin
GPS sensitivity questions and its HW RF consideration
GPS sensitivity questions and its HW RF considerationGPS sensitivity questions and its HW RF consideration
GPS sensitivity questions and its HW RF consideration
Pei-Che Chang
Iuwne10 S01 L06
Iuwne10 S01 L06Iuwne10 S01 L06
Iuwne10 S01 L06
Ravi Ranjan
Robokits gps 01
Robokits gps 01Robokits gps 01
Robokits gps 01
Jyoti Luhach
EE673+F14+T2+Project1+Final+Pres+r3rg
EE673+F14+T2+Project1+Final+Pres+r3rgEE673+F14+T2+Project1+Final+Pres+r3rg
EE673+F14+T2+Project1+Final+Pres+r3rg
Ashikur Rahman

More from Teleste Corporation (16)

Linear TV and distributed access
Linear TV and distributed accessLinear TV and distributed access
Linear TV and distributed access
Teleste Corporation
Technology at the cutting edge of broadcasting
Technology at the cutting edge of broadcastingTechnology at the cutting edge of broadcasting
Technology at the cutting edge of broadcasting
Teleste Corporation
The future of linear TV channels in an on-demand world
The future of linear TV channels in an on-demand worldThe future of linear TV channels in an on-demand world
The future of linear TV channels in an on-demand world
Teleste Corporation
HFC passives - Ready for DOCSIS 4.0? #TelesteLive webinar presentation May 19...
HFC passives - Ready for DOCSIS 4.0? #TelesteLive webinar presentation May 19...HFC passives - Ready for DOCSIS 4.0? #TelesteLive webinar presentation May 19...
HFC passives - Ready for DOCSIS 4.0? #TelesteLive webinar presentation May 19...
Teleste Corporation
HFC actives towards 1.8 GHz? - #TelesteLive webinar presentation May 19, 2020
 HFC actives towards 1.8 GHz? - #TelesteLive webinar presentation May 19, 2020 HFC actives towards 1.8 GHz? - #TelesteLive webinar presentation May 19, 2020
HFC actives towards 1.8 GHz? - #TelesteLive webinar presentation May 19, 2020
Teleste Corporation
Teleste ACE8 - Marzo 2020Teleste ACE8 - Marzo 2020
Teleste ACE8 - Marzo 2020
Teleste Corporation
Teleste ACE8 - Updated March 2020
Teleste ACE8 - Updated March 2020Teleste ACE8 - Updated March 2020
Teleste ACE8 - Updated March 2020
Teleste Corporation
SmartRIS low cost automated ingress detection
SmartRIS low cost automated ingress detectionSmartRIS low cost automated ingress detection
SmartRIS low cost automated ingress detection
Teleste Corporation
ANGA COM 2017: Hanno Narjus at Teleste press event
ANGA COM 2017: Hanno Narjus at Teleste press event ANGA COM 2017: Hanno Narjus at Teleste press event
ANGA COM 2017: Hanno Narjus at Teleste press event
Teleste Corporation
Full lifecycle services for next generation initiatives
Full lifecycle services for next generation initiativesFull lifecycle services for next generation initiatives
Full lifecycle services for next generation initiatives
Teleste Corporation
Improving the efficiency in daily operations
Improving the efficiency in daily operationsImproving the efficiency in daily operations
Improving the efficiency in daily operations
Teleste Corporation
Portrait of a provider of integrated field services and solutionsPortrait of a provider of integrated field services and solutions
Portrait of a provider of integrated field services and solutions
Teleste Corporation
Rolling out gigasphere
Rolling out gigasphereRolling out gigasphere
Rolling out gigasphere
Teleste Corporation
Ingress/egress/LTE
Ingress/egress/LTEIngress/egress/LTE
Ingress/egress/LTE
Teleste Corporation
Focus on the essential / Intelligent Networks
Focus on the essential / Intelligent NetworksFocus on the essential / Intelligent Networks
Focus on the essential / Intelligent Networks
Teleste Corporation
Data over Coax - The Best Last Mile Access Technology before FTTH
Data over Coax - The Best Last Mile Access Technology before FTTHData over Coax - The Best Last Mile Access Technology before FTTH
Data over Coax - The Best Last Mile Access Technology before FTTH
Teleste Corporation
Linear TV and distributed access
Linear TV and distributed accessLinear TV and distributed access
Linear TV and distributed access
Teleste Corporation
Technology at the cutting edge of broadcasting
Technology at the cutting edge of broadcastingTechnology at the cutting edge of broadcasting
Technology at the cutting edge of broadcasting
Teleste Corporation
The future of linear TV channels in an on-demand world
The future of linear TV channels in an on-demand worldThe future of linear TV channels in an on-demand world
The future of linear TV channels in an on-demand world
Teleste Corporation
HFC passives - Ready for DOCSIS 4.0? #TelesteLive webinar presentation May 19...
HFC passives - Ready for DOCSIS 4.0? #TelesteLive webinar presentation May 19...HFC passives - Ready for DOCSIS 4.0? #TelesteLive webinar presentation May 19...
HFC passives - Ready for DOCSIS 4.0? #TelesteLive webinar presentation May 19...
Teleste Corporation
HFC actives towards 1.8 GHz? - #TelesteLive webinar presentation May 19, 2020
 HFC actives towards 1.8 GHz? - #TelesteLive webinar presentation May 19, 2020 HFC actives towards 1.8 GHz? - #TelesteLive webinar presentation May 19, 2020
HFC actives towards 1.8 GHz? - #TelesteLive webinar presentation May 19, 2020
Teleste Corporation
Teleste ACE8 - Marzo 2020Teleste ACE8 - Marzo 2020
Teleste ACE8 - Marzo 2020
Teleste Corporation
Teleste ACE8 - Updated March 2020
Teleste ACE8 - Updated March 2020Teleste ACE8 - Updated March 2020
Teleste ACE8 - Updated March 2020
Teleste Corporation
SmartRIS low cost automated ingress detection
SmartRIS low cost automated ingress detectionSmartRIS low cost automated ingress detection
SmartRIS low cost automated ingress detection
Teleste Corporation
ANGA COM 2017: Hanno Narjus at Teleste press event
ANGA COM 2017: Hanno Narjus at Teleste press event ANGA COM 2017: Hanno Narjus at Teleste press event
ANGA COM 2017: Hanno Narjus at Teleste press event
Teleste Corporation
Full lifecycle services for next generation initiatives
Full lifecycle services for next generation initiativesFull lifecycle services for next generation initiatives
Full lifecycle services for next generation initiatives
Teleste Corporation
Improving the efficiency in daily operations
Improving the efficiency in daily operationsImproving the efficiency in daily operations
Improving the efficiency in daily operations
Teleste Corporation
Portrait of a provider of integrated field services and solutionsPortrait of a provider of integrated field services and solutions
Portrait of a provider of integrated field services and solutions
Teleste Corporation
Focus on the essential / Intelligent Networks
Focus on the essential / Intelligent NetworksFocus on the essential / Intelligent Networks
Focus on the essential / Intelligent Networks
Teleste Corporation
Data over Coax - The Best Last Mile Access Technology before FTTH
Data over Coax - The Best Last Mile Access Technology before FTTHData over Coax - The Best Last Mile Access Technology before FTTH
Data over Coax - The Best Last Mile Access Technology before FTTH
Teleste Corporation

Recently uploaded (20)

Technology use over time and its impact on consumers and businesses.pptx
Technology use over time and its impact on consumers and businesses.pptxTechnology use over time and its impact on consumers and businesses.pptx
Technology use over time and its impact on consumers and businesses.pptx
kaylagaze
Q4_TLE-7-Lesson-6-Week-6.pptx 4th quarter
Q4_TLE-7-Lesson-6-Week-6.pptx 4th quarterQ4_TLE-7-Lesson-6-Week-6.pptx 4th quarter
Q4_TLE-7-Lesson-6-Week-6.pptx 4th quarter
MariaBarbaraPaglinaw
EaseUS Partition Master Crack 2025 + Serial Key
EaseUS Partition Master Crack 2025 + Serial KeyEaseUS Partition Master Crack 2025 + Serial Key
EaseUS Partition Master Crack 2025 + Serial Key
kherorpacca127
FinTech - US Annual Funding Report - 2024.pptx
FinTech - US Annual Funding Report - 2024.pptxFinTech - US Annual Funding Report - 2024.pptx
FinTech - US Annual Funding Report - 2024.pptx
Tracxn
Future-Proof Your Career with AI Options
Future-Proof Your  Career with AI OptionsFuture-Proof Your  Career with AI Options
Future-Proof Your Career with AI Options
DianaGray10
Field Device Management Market Report 2030 - TechSci Research
Field Device Management Market Report 2030 - TechSci ResearchField Device Management Market Report 2030 - TechSci Research
Field Device Management Market Report 2030 - TechSci Research
Vipin Mishra
DealBook of Ukraine: 2025 edition | AVentures Capital
DealBook of Ukraine: 2025 edition | AVentures CapitalDealBook of Ukraine: 2025 edition | AVentures Capital
DealBook of Ukraine: 2025 edition | AVentures Capital
Yevgen Sysoyev
Wondershare Filmora Crack 14.3.2.11147 Latest
Wondershare Filmora Crack 14.3.2.11147 LatestWondershare Filmora Crack 14.3.2.11147 Latest
Wondershare Filmora Crack 14.3.2.11147 Latest
udkg888
UiPath Document Understanding - Generative AI and Active learning capabilities
UiPath Document Understanding - Generative AI and Active learning capabilitiesUiPath Document Understanding - Generative AI and Active learning capabilities
UiPath Document Understanding - Generative AI and Active learning capabilities
DianaGray10
World Information Architecture Day 2025 - UX at a Crossroads
World Information Architecture Day 2025 - UX at a CrossroadsWorld Information Architecture Day 2025 - UX at a Crossroads
World Information Architecture Day 2025 - UX at a Crossroads
Joshua Randall
Build with AI on Google Cloud Session #4
Build with AI on Google Cloud Session #4Build with AI on Google Cloud Session #4
Build with AI on Google Cloud Session #4
Margaret Maynard-Reid
TrustArc Webinar - Building your DPIA/PIA Program: Best Practices & Tips
TrustArc Webinar - Building your DPIA/PIA Program: Best Practices & TipsTrustArc Webinar - Building your DPIA/PIA Program: Best Practices & Tips
TrustArc Webinar - Building your DPIA/PIA Program: Best Practices & Tips
TrustArc
Transform Your Future with Front-End Development Training
Transform Your Future with Front-End Development TrainingTransform Your Future with Front-End Development Training
Transform Your Future with Front-End Development Training
Vtechlabs
A Framework for Model-Driven Digital Twin Engineering
A Framework for Model-Driven Digital Twin EngineeringA Framework for Model-Driven Digital Twin Engineering
A Framework for Model-Driven Digital Twin Engineering
Daniel Lehner
[Webinar] Scaling Made Simple: Getting Started with No-Code Web Apps
[Webinar] Scaling Made Simple: Getting Started with No-Code Web Apps[Webinar] Scaling Made Simple: Getting Started with No-Code Web Apps
[Webinar] Scaling Made Simple: Getting Started with No-Code Web Apps
Safe Software
UiPath Automation Developer Associate Training Series 2025 - Session 1
UiPath Automation Developer Associate Training Series 2025 - Session 1UiPath Automation Developer Associate Training Series 2025 - Session 1
UiPath Automation Developer Associate Training Series 2025 - Session 1
DianaGray10
1.1. Evolution-and-Scope-of-Business-Analytics.pptx
1.1. Evolution-and-Scope-of-Business-Analytics.pptx1.1. Evolution-and-Scope-of-Business-Analytics.pptx
1.1. Evolution-and-Scope-of-Business-Analytics.pptx
Jitendra Tomar
DevNexus - Building 10x Development Organizations.pdf
DevNexus - Building 10x Development Organizations.pdfDevNexus - Building 10x Development Organizations.pdf
DevNexus - Building 10x Development Organizations.pdf
Justin Reock
Inside Freshworks' Migration from Cassandra to ScyllaDB by Premkumar Patturaj
Inside Freshworks' Migration from Cassandra to ScyllaDB by Premkumar PatturajInside Freshworks' Migration from Cassandra to ScyllaDB by Premkumar Patturaj
Inside Freshworks' Migration from Cassandra to ScyllaDB by Premkumar Patturaj
ScyllaDB
Replacing RocksDB with ScyllaDB in Kafka Streams by Almog Gavra
Replacing RocksDB with ScyllaDB in Kafka Streams by Almog GavraReplacing RocksDB with ScyllaDB in Kafka Streams by Almog Gavra
Replacing RocksDB with ScyllaDB in Kafka Streams by Almog Gavra
ScyllaDB
Technology use over time and its impact on consumers and businesses.pptx
Technology use over time and its impact on consumers and businesses.pptxTechnology use over time and its impact on consumers and businesses.pptx
Technology use over time and its impact on consumers and businesses.pptx
kaylagaze
Q4_TLE-7-Lesson-6-Week-6.pptx 4th quarter
Q4_TLE-7-Lesson-6-Week-6.pptx 4th quarterQ4_TLE-7-Lesson-6-Week-6.pptx 4th quarter
Q4_TLE-7-Lesson-6-Week-6.pptx 4th quarter
MariaBarbaraPaglinaw
EaseUS Partition Master Crack 2025 + Serial Key
EaseUS Partition Master Crack 2025 + Serial KeyEaseUS Partition Master Crack 2025 + Serial Key
EaseUS Partition Master Crack 2025 + Serial Key
kherorpacca127
FinTech - US Annual Funding Report - 2024.pptx
FinTech - US Annual Funding Report - 2024.pptxFinTech - US Annual Funding Report - 2024.pptx
FinTech - US Annual Funding Report - 2024.pptx
Tracxn
Future-Proof Your Career with AI Options
Future-Proof Your  Career with AI OptionsFuture-Proof Your  Career with AI Options
Future-Proof Your Career with AI Options
DianaGray10
Field Device Management Market Report 2030 - TechSci Research
Field Device Management Market Report 2030 - TechSci ResearchField Device Management Market Report 2030 - TechSci Research
Field Device Management Market Report 2030 - TechSci Research
Vipin Mishra
DealBook of Ukraine: 2025 edition | AVentures Capital
DealBook of Ukraine: 2025 edition | AVentures CapitalDealBook of Ukraine: 2025 edition | AVentures Capital
DealBook of Ukraine: 2025 edition | AVentures Capital
Yevgen Sysoyev
Wondershare Filmora Crack 14.3.2.11147 Latest
Wondershare Filmora Crack 14.3.2.11147 LatestWondershare Filmora Crack 14.3.2.11147 Latest
Wondershare Filmora Crack 14.3.2.11147 Latest
udkg888
UiPath Document Understanding - Generative AI and Active learning capabilities
UiPath Document Understanding - Generative AI and Active learning capabilitiesUiPath Document Understanding - Generative AI and Active learning capabilities
UiPath Document Understanding - Generative AI and Active learning capabilities
DianaGray10
World Information Architecture Day 2025 - UX at a Crossroads
World Information Architecture Day 2025 - UX at a CrossroadsWorld Information Architecture Day 2025 - UX at a Crossroads
World Information Architecture Day 2025 - UX at a Crossroads
Joshua Randall
Build with AI on Google Cloud Session #4
Build with AI on Google Cloud Session #4Build with AI on Google Cloud Session #4
Build with AI on Google Cloud Session #4
Margaret Maynard-Reid
TrustArc Webinar - Building your DPIA/PIA Program: Best Practices & Tips
TrustArc Webinar - Building your DPIA/PIA Program: Best Practices & TipsTrustArc Webinar - Building your DPIA/PIA Program: Best Practices & Tips
TrustArc Webinar - Building your DPIA/PIA Program: Best Practices & Tips
TrustArc
Transform Your Future with Front-End Development Training
Transform Your Future with Front-End Development TrainingTransform Your Future with Front-End Development Training
Transform Your Future with Front-End Development Training
Vtechlabs
A Framework for Model-Driven Digital Twin Engineering
A Framework for Model-Driven Digital Twin EngineeringA Framework for Model-Driven Digital Twin Engineering
A Framework for Model-Driven Digital Twin Engineering
Daniel Lehner
[Webinar] Scaling Made Simple: Getting Started with No-Code Web Apps
[Webinar] Scaling Made Simple: Getting Started with No-Code Web Apps[Webinar] Scaling Made Simple: Getting Started with No-Code Web Apps
[Webinar] Scaling Made Simple: Getting Started with No-Code Web Apps
Safe Software
UiPath Automation Developer Associate Training Series 2025 - Session 1
UiPath Automation Developer Associate Training Series 2025 - Session 1UiPath Automation Developer Associate Training Series 2025 - Session 1
UiPath Automation Developer Associate Training Series 2025 - Session 1
DianaGray10
1.1. Evolution-and-Scope-of-Business-Analytics.pptx
1.1. Evolution-and-Scope-of-Business-Analytics.pptx1.1. Evolution-and-Scope-of-Business-Analytics.pptx
1.1. Evolution-and-Scope-of-Business-Analytics.pptx
Jitendra Tomar
DevNexus - Building 10x Development Organizations.pdf
DevNexus - Building 10x Development Organizations.pdfDevNexus - Building 10x Development Organizations.pdf
DevNexus - Building 10x Development Organizations.pdf
Justin Reock
Inside Freshworks' Migration from Cassandra to ScyllaDB by Premkumar Patturaj
Inside Freshworks' Migration from Cassandra to ScyllaDB by Premkumar PatturajInside Freshworks' Migration from Cassandra to ScyllaDB by Premkumar Patturaj
Inside Freshworks' Migration from Cassandra to ScyllaDB by Premkumar Patturaj
ScyllaDB
Replacing RocksDB with ScyllaDB in Kafka Streams by Almog Gavra
Replacing RocksDB with ScyllaDB in Kafka Streams by Almog GavraReplacing RocksDB with ScyllaDB in Kafka Streams by Almog Gavra
Replacing RocksDB with ScyllaDB in Kafka Streams by Almog Gavra
ScyllaDB

Possibilities and limitations of Extended Spectrum DOCSIS return path

  • 1. Teleste Proprietary. All rights reserved. Possibilities and limitations of the Extended Spectrum DOCSIS return path Steve Condra Senior Director, Engineering and Product Management Teleste Intercept
  • 2. Teleste Proprietary. All rights reserved. Preface 2 From HFC standpoint the higher upstream capacity requires DOCSIS 4.0 technology supports up to 10 Gbps speeds downstream capacity and up to 6 Gbps upstream capacity, easily allowing for multi-gigabit symmetric services over HFC networks. https://www.cablelabs.com/technologies/docsis-4-0-technology Higher frequencies, higher gain, higher RF power Advanced constellations (1K, 2K OFDM) requiring better RF performance More advanced amplifiers (when N0) What more advanced amplifiers means, besides better RF performance Why does the changing outdoor temperature become an additional challenge?
  • 3. Teleste Proprietary. All rights reserved. 1K OFDM upstream (DOCSIS 3.1) 乞_ = 10 log10 10 乞駒_ 10 + 10 駒 10 3 Modulation RPD upstream receive requirements (MER) CM upstream TX (MER) 1K OFDM 35.5 dB 44 dB In theory five cascaded amplifiers can meet this MER requirement easily CNR performance of an ESD amplifier is 55 dB for the upstream
  • 4. Teleste Proprietary. All rights reserved. 1K OFDM upstream, amplifier clusters 4 Noise cumulation (funneling), assumption: around 20 (4x5) amps below an RPD However, due to the changing outdoor temperature.. 乞_ = 10 log10 10 乞駒_ 10 + 4 5 10 駒 10 乞_ 40 CM RPD
  • 5. Teleste Proprietary. All rights reserved. Test (from -4属F to 140属F ) 5 17 dB@ 1.2 GHz 20 dB@ 1.2 GHz 26 dB@ 1.2 GHz 23 dB@ 1.2 GHz Network Analyzer Heating Chamber Coax: 100 ft = 2.83 dB @ 1.2 GHz, 100 ft = 1.07 dB @ 204 MHz Note: Internal (but not external) temperature compensation always on
  • 6. Teleste Proprietary. All rights reserved. Upstream frequency responses 6 Frequency [MHz] 10 30 50 70 150 170 190 204 220 +140属F +77属F reference -4属F 18 dB 10 dB 14 dB 12 dB 16 dB 4 dB 1.5 dB
  • 7. Teleste Proprietary. All rights reserved. Consequences 7 Attenuation increases, modems have higher (if possible) output level, at some point amplifiers are overloaded. Distortion Lower MER Attenuation decreases, modems have lower output level, at some point input levels of amplifiers are too low. Noise rises Lower MER
  • 8. Teleste Proprietary. All rights reserved. Proposal 8 17 dB@ 1.2 GHz 20 dB@ 1.2 GHz 26 dB@ 1.2 GHz 23 dB@ 1.2 GHz RFF RFF RFF RFF RFF Heating Chamber Network Analyzer Note: Internal and external temperature compensation on By following downstream changes, we can make real-time upstream adjustments Return path gain Return path slope Return Follows Forward (RFF) = Return path ALSC Return path ALSC has been used successfully in Europe together with 204 MHz upstream
  • 9. Teleste Proprietary. All rights reserved. Upstream frequency responses (RFF ON) 9 Frequency [MHz] 10 30 50 70 18 dB 10 dB 14 dB 12 dB 16 dB 1 dB 1 dB 150 170 190 204 220 +140属F RFF ON +77属F reference -4属F RFF ON
  • 10. Teleste Proprietary. All rights reserved. Summary 1. As upstream frequencies rise, outdoor temperature changes cause return path issues 2. Issues become visible above 100 MHz and problematic above 204 MHz 3. By following forward path changes (RFF), all seasonal maintenance visits can be avoided 4. More information / results above 204 MHz will be published at fall technical forum 10
  • 11. Teleste Proprietary. All rights reserved. For more information, please contact: steve.condra@telesteintercept.com 11