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Problem Solving
And related to IATF 16949 requirements  clause
10.2.3.
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Whoa!
Finally  CoachWorks is alive.! I
The topic not new, but I still see that as a
requirement of IATF 16949 there are still
some people who don't quite interpret it
correctly
3
Danang Widoyoko
Bogor, 21.5.2020
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The top management of my clients,
suddenly asked me during closing
meeting after hear my conclusion :
Why did you conclude
that the problem solving
system is not effective
in our company?
3Clause 10.2.3.
Problem solving
Our Topics
1
Section 10 -
of QMS
Improvemen
t
2from part 10
of QMS
Corrective
action
The following is the order of topics related with problem
solving that we will discuss
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Section 10
Improvement
10.1 General
The organization shall determine and select opportunities for
improvement and implement any necessary actions to meet
requirements and enhance customer satisfaction.
These shall include:
a) improving products and services to meet requirements as well as
to address future needs and expectations;
b) correcting, preventing or reducing undesired effects;
c) improving the performance and effectiveness of the quality
management system.
NOTE Examples of improvement can include correction, corrective
action, continual improvement,
breakthrough change, innovation and re-organization.
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2
Take action from the
results that are still
below expectations /
below customer
requirements
1
Take action for what
was not achieved
4
Improve Process for
the future
3
Improve product
quality for the future
Section 1.0
Improvement
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Operational Performance Improvement (OPI) 
steps to take your company to the next level
Section 10
Clause 10.1.
Improvement
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Why give Clause 10.1: general
if than later mention
Clause 10.3 : continual improvement?
these two parts should only be put together, not very
effectively stated as a separate clause
Clause 10.2.
Nonconformity and corrective action
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10.2.1 When a nonconformity occurs, including
any arising from complaints, .
10.2.2 The organization shall retain documented
information as evidence of: .
Share the essence of the clause repeating the
previous clause - only more comprehensive so as not
to be too narrow in understanding
Clause
with Corrective action theme
Added in detail, it has been stated before and / or has a relationship
with corrective action
 8.7.1.2 Control of nonconforming product 
customer-specified process
 8.7.1.3 Control of suspect product
 9.2 Internal audit
 9.3.3.1 Management review outputs
 10.2.4 Error-proofing
 10.2.5 Warranty management systems
 10.2.6 Customer complaints and field failure
test analysis
Why is error proofing specifically
mentioned in the clause regarding
corrective action?
actually this can be
counterproductive, because
the essence of error
proofing is not only done
after a problem has
occurred, but rather is
made more precautionary
to control the potential risk
of process failure
Clause 10.2.3. : Problem solving
Opportunities for
improvement concern to
enhance customer satisfaction
10.1 General
Corrective action plan to
prevent Non conformity
problem recur
10.2. Non Confromity
& Corrective action
problem solving is done by an
effective methodology with a
variety of minimal provisions
10.2.3. problem
solving
In section 10 :
Why IATF still need add this Clause 10.2.3. ?
Clause 10.2.3. included in section 10 - improvement of Annex SL. Even right
above it, clause 10.2.- consists of 10.2.1. and 10.2.2. already discussed
Non-conformity and corrective action
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1 Defined approaches for
various types and scale
of problems
Documented Process
2 Quick action/correction
to stop the problem
immediately  ISO
9001- clause 8.7
Containment Action
3
The root caused was
generated with
appropriate method
Root Caused Analysis
Method
Clause 10.2.3.
in the iATF requirements - there is emphasis on the corrective action
requested
50%
22%
28%
4 prevention by improving
the system / process
standard
Systemic
Improvement
5 ensure the effectiveness of
the system improvement
against the expected
prevention
Effectiveness Review
6
ensure that repairs are
permanent by updating
and / or setting new
standards
Standarisasi
Clause 10.2.3.
in the iATF requirements - there is emphasis on the corrective action
requested
50%
22%
28%
THANKS
Action for call  if you feel you need help
understanding and implementing it - you can
contact us danangwid1987@gmail.com
 bersamamitramatra@gmail.co
m
WA Chatt & Call
+62 811196211

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  • 3. Whoa! Finally CoachWorks is alive.! I The topic not new, but I still see that as a requirement of IATF 16949 there are still some people who don't quite interpret it correctly 3 Danang Widoyoko Bogor, 21.5.2020 Copyright 2020 息 DWI
  • 4. Copyright 2020 息 DWI The top management of my clients, suddenly asked me during closing meeting after hear my conclusion : Why did you conclude that the problem solving system is not effective in our company?
  • 5. 3Clause 10.2.3. Problem solving Our Topics 1 Section 10 - of QMS Improvemen t 2from part 10 of QMS Corrective action The following is the order of topics related with problem solving that we will discuss Copyright 2020 息 DWI
  • 6. Section 10 Improvement 10.1 General The organization shall determine and select opportunities for improvement and implement any necessary actions to meet requirements and enhance customer satisfaction. These shall include: a) improving products and services to meet requirements as well as to address future needs and expectations; b) correcting, preventing or reducing undesired effects; c) improving the performance and effectiveness of the quality management system. NOTE Examples of improvement can include correction, corrective action, continual improvement, breakthrough change, innovation and re-organization. Copyright 2020 息 DWI
  • 7. 2 Take action from the results that are still below expectations / below customer requirements 1 Take action for what was not achieved 4 Improve Process for the future 3 Improve product quality for the future Section 1.0 Improvement Copyright 2020 息 DWI
  • 8. Operational Performance Improvement (OPI) steps to take your company to the next level Section 10 Clause 10.1. Improvement Copyright 2020 息 DWI
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  • 11. Clause with Corrective action theme Added in detail, it has been stated before and / or has a relationship with corrective action 8.7.1.2 Control of nonconforming product customer-specified process 8.7.1.3 Control of suspect product 9.2 Internal audit 9.3.3.1 Management review outputs 10.2.4 Error-proofing 10.2.5 Warranty management systems 10.2.6 Customer complaints and field failure test analysis
  • 12. Why is error proofing specifically mentioned in the clause regarding corrective action? actually this can be counterproductive, because the essence of error proofing is not only done after a problem has occurred, but rather is made more precautionary to control the potential risk of process failure
  • 13. Clause 10.2.3. : Problem solving
  • 14. Opportunities for improvement concern to enhance customer satisfaction 10.1 General Corrective action plan to prevent Non conformity problem recur 10.2. Non Confromity & Corrective action problem solving is done by an effective methodology with a variety of minimal provisions 10.2.3. problem solving In section 10 : Why IATF still need add this Clause 10.2.3. ? Clause 10.2.3. included in section 10 - improvement of Annex SL. Even right above it, clause 10.2.- consists of 10.2.1. and 10.2.2. already discussed Non-conformity and corrective action Copyright 2020 息 DWI
  • 15. 1 Defined approaches for various types and scale of problems Documented Process 2 Quick action/correction to stop the problem immediately ISO 9001- clause 8.7 Containment Action 3 The root caused was generated with appropriate method Root Caused Analysis Method Clause 10.2.3. in the iATF requirements - there is emphasis on the corrective action requested 50% 22% 28%
  • 16. 4 prevention by improving the system / process standard Systemic Improvement 5 ensure the effectiveness of the system improvement against the expected prevention Effectiveness Review 6 ensure that repairs are permanent by updating and / or setting new standards Standarisasi Clause 10.2.3. in the iATF requirements - there is emphasis on the corrective action requested 50% 22% 28%
  • 17. THANKS Action for call if you feel you need help understanding and implementing it - you can contact us danangwid1987@gmail.com bersamamitramatra@gmail.co m WA Chatt & Call +62 811196211