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Ageism 
and technical services workers 
Andrew Davis, Synergistech Communications 
TC Dojo Open Session 12/08/14 1
Overview 
 Context 
 Symptoms 
 Concerns 
 Solutions 
 Successes 
 Techniques 
12/08/14 TC Dojo Master Session 2
Acronyms 
TW = Technology Worker 
HT = Hiring Team 
OC = Older Candidate 
12/08/14 TC Dojo Master Session 3
My biases and disclaimers, and the 
industrys 
Context 
TC Dojo Open Session 12/08/14 4
Andrews Context 
 Recruits content developers in Silicon 
Valley software industry 
 Works with TWs in their 50s, 60s, and 
70s every day 
 Isnt a lawyer, doesnt seek an 
adversarial solution 
 Finds few skilled 20-/30-something 
TWs* 
TC Dojo Open Session 12/08/14 5
Industrys Context 
 Engineers control budgets (again) 
 New technology demands new tech 
skills 
 Most TWs havent kept current 
 HTs seek peers with similar skills, 
values, work ethic 
 HTs value these over experience, 
wisdom 
12/08/14 TC Dojo Master Session 6
When should you suspect youre facing ageism? 
Symptoms 
TC Dojo Open Session 12/08/14 7
Symptoms 
 Portfolio reviews and phone interviews 
go well, F2F interviews dont 
 HT realizes that the candidate is a couple 
decades older than their average age 
 HT goes silent, says too much 
experience 
 Feedback boils down to overqualified 
TC Dojo Open Session 12/08/14 8
Underlying Concerns 
TC Dojo Open Session 12/08/14 9 
Whats worrying the HT?
Underlying Concerns, pt 1 
 Cultural fit 
 Energy level 
 Health 
 Insurance costs, protected class 
TC Dojo Open Session 12/08/14 10 
status 
 Tolerance for chaos 
 Flexibility 
 Tools, processes, systems *
Underlying Concerns, pt 2 
 Agile-compatibility 
 Onsite, open seating 
 Experience vs potential 
 User-compatibility 
 Fear of age and treachery * 
TC Dojo Open Session 12/08/14 11
Addressing HTs Concerns
Stay calm, dont lecture, and act pre-emptively 
Addressing Concerns 
TC Dojo Open Session 12/08/14 13
Addressing HTs Concerns, pt 1 
Preemptively counter HTs Age-related issues: 
 Efficiency 
 Past experience in similar situations gives OC 
sixth sense for what works, what users need, 
and the easiest way to achieve goals 
 Quality 
 Past successes and failures help OC understand 
and avoid typical pitfalls, recognize the right 
solution more readily, and deliver with less 
friction 
 Focus * 
 OC can easily tune out noise and apply effort 
where itll do most good
Addressing HTs Concerns, pt 2 
 Pacing 
 OCs reluctance to burn out on fire drills 
 OC can work steadily and sanely, meeting 
commitments long-term 
 Self-awareness 
 OC understands own strengths and weaknesses 
 OC knows when to seek help (or delegate) 
 OC can accept suboptimal outcomes without blaming 
 Frankness 
 OC is realistic about own limitations, candidly assesses 
risks 
 Clarity 
 OC sets clear expectations, wont overcommit (then 
bomb) 
 Mentoring 
 Some HTs want help improving processes; who better 
than an OC?
Success Stories 
OCs get best results when they: 
 Put HTs needs first 
 Dont lecture, bully w/ their experience 
 Meet HTs more than half-way 
 Find ways to become indispensable 
 Achieve autonomy w/ tools, products 
 Earn trust 
 Make HT members look good 
 Over-communicate
Success Stories 
What works for you? 
 Lets hear how you have resolved  or 
been thwarted by  problems related to 
ageism. 
 What have I failed to address? 
 Are OCs doomed to work only on 
temporary assignments? *
Techniques 
 Anticipate HT concerns, address 
them preemptively and in detail 
 Show that you keep current w/ 
technology, are just as productive 
 Characterize HTs goals, discuss 
and demonstrate how youve 
delivered in similar contexts 
 Share relevant proof (references, 
testimonials, even code)
Public Sessions 
Questions? 
Contact Andrew: 
synergistech@gmail.com 
C: 650-271-0148 
LinkedIn.com/in/synergistech

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TC Dojo Ageism-12-8-2014

  • 1. Ageism and technical services workers Andrew Davis, Synergistech Communications TC Dojo Open Session 12/08/14 1
  • 2. Overview Context Symptoms Concerns Solutions Successes Techniques 12/08/14 TC Dojo Master Session 2
  • 3. Acronyms TW = Technology Worker HT = Hiring Team OC = Older Candidate 12/08/14 TC Dojo Master Session 3
  • 4. My biases and disclaimers, and the industrys Context TC Dojo Open Session 12/08/14 4
  • 5. Andrews Context Recruits content developers in Silicon Valley software industry Works with TWs in their 50s, 60s, and 70s every day Isnt a lawyer, doesnt seek an adversarial solution Finds few skilled 20-/30-something TWs* TC Dojo Open Session 12/08/14 5
  • 6. Industrys Context Engineers control budgets (again) New technology demands new tech skills Most TWs havent kept current HTs seek peers with similar skills, values, work ethic HTs value these over experience, wisdom 12/08/14 TC Dojo Master Session 6
  • 7. When should you suspect youre facing ageism? Symptoms TC Dojo Open Session 12/08/14 7
  • 8. Symptoms Portfolio reviews and phone interviews go well, F2F interviews dont HT realizes that the candidate is a couple decades older than their average age HT goes silent, says too much experience Feedback boils down to overqualified TC Dojo Open Session 12/08/14 8
  • 9. Underlying Concerns TC Dojo Open Session 12/08/14 9 Whats worrying the HT?
  • 10. Underlying Concerns, pt 1 Cultural fit Energy level Health Insurance costs, protected class TC Dojo Open Session 12/08/14 10 status Tolerance for chaos Flexibility Tools, processes, systems *
  • 11. Underlying Concerns, pt 2 Agile-compatibility Onsite, open seating Experience vs potential User-compatibility Fear of age and treachery * TC Dojo Open Session 12/08/14 11
  • 13. Stay calm, dont lecture, and act pre-emptively Addressing Concerns TC Dojo Open Session 12/08/14 13
  • 14. Addressing HTs Concerns, pt 1 Preemptively counter HTs Age-related issues: Efficiency Past experience in similar situations gives OC sixth sense for what works, what users need, and the easiest way to achieve goals Quality Past successes and failures help OC understand and avoid typical pitfalls, recognize the right solution more readily, and deliver with less friction Focus * OC can easily tune out noise and apply effort where itll do most good
  • 15. Addressing HTs Concerns, pt 2 Pacing OCs reluctance to burn out on fire drills OC can work steadily and sanely, meeting commitments long-term Self-awareness OC understands own strengths and weaknesses OC knows when to seek help (or delegate) OC can accept suboptimal outcomes without blaming Frankness OC is realistic about own limitations, candidly assesses risks Clarity OC sets clear expectations, wont overcommit (then bomb) Mentoring Some HTs want help improving processes; who better than an OC?
  • 16. Success Stories OCs get best results when they: Put HTs needs first Dont lecture, bully w/ their experience Meet HTs more than half-way Find ways to become indispensable Achieve autonomy w/ tools, products Earn trust Make HT members look good Over-communicate
  • 17. Success Stories What works for you? Lets hear how you have resolved or been thwarted by problems related to ageism. What have I failed to address? Are OCs doomed to work only on temporary assignments? *
  • 18. Techniques Anticipate HT concerns, address them preemptively and in detail Show that you keep current w/ technology, are just as productive Characterize HTs goals, discuss and demonstrate how youve delivered in similar contexts Share relevant proof (references, testimonials, even code)
  • 19. Public Sessions Questions? Contact Andrew: synergistech@gmail.com C: 650-271-0148 LinkedIn.com/in/synergistech

Editor's Notes

  1. BIO: Andrew Davis has recruited technical content developers in the SF Bay Area since 1995. He is a former software industry Technical Writer and has a reputation for both understanding and championing the role of content development. Andrew enjoys helping those who communicate complex information get ahead by recognizing and refining their value to technology companies. He's candid and connected and, just as importantly, he likes to help tech industry workers achieve their goals and achieve independence from intermediaries. Andrew ran Synergistech Communications during the Internet Gold Rush years and has recently returned to solo recruiting mode. Join him on LinkedIn (www.linkedin.com/in/synergistech) to learn more.
  2. Thinking Aloud My goals better matches, more empowerment My insights anecdotes, observations, ideas, but nothing researched or proven Your input working hypotheses, suggestions, objections
  3. Location Northern California is expensive Most local companies want local workers Result: qualified local TWs arent cheap Age Most local software industry TWs are 50+, some <70 Most need to work until age 65 Experience Most TWs have 10+ years industry experience Most are subject-matter experts 1st, toolsmiths/technicians 2nd, and corporate citizens 3rd Meanwhile There _is_ a new generation of local content developers, but in most cases they are degreed software engineers who have been recruited straight from campus and persuaded to write documentation as a means to getting aboard at top-tier companies such as Salesforce, Google, Oracle, LinkedIn, and Facebook. There are Gen Y workers who write well but identify more with software engineers than OCs do; meet these people through Write The Docs (WTD) meetups (http://www.meetup.com/Write-the-Docs). Whether this next generation remains in the field, as OCs have done, is an open question.
  4. Ageism is real, but its very hard to prove. An adversarial stance, however justified, is always counterproductive. Also, increasingly, HTs create hybrid job descriptions (programmer writer, content strategist and author, developmental editor), with misaligned and/or opposed roles most candidates cant prove they can play (and usually dont want to). Finally, HTs tend to make choices based on unanimous input; dissenters routinely vote down a hiring choice based on unfounded fears, vaguely relevant past experience, or disagreement about the roles priorities. And hiring managers, lacking experience and confidence, seldom overrule in favor of a good enough choice.
  5. Underlying Concerns of the Hiring Team (HT), pt 1 Older candidate (OC) wont be comfortable with HTs culture (open seating, RedBull & vodka, pub crawls after work, nerf wars, snowboarding weekends) OC wont have energy level or disposition to work weekends and pull all-nighters OC will get sick more often, drive up the cost of companys health insurance coverage, and/or cause legal trouble if things dont work out and HT lays the OC off OC wont be tolerant of HTs chaos (aka reluctance to plan, schedule, freeze code/GUIs, etc) OC wont experiment wholeheartedly with new tools and systems (ie, failing fast), or will advocate for expensive, powerful tools (eg FrameMaker, Flare, CMSs) over open-source, simple ones (wikis, WordPress, etc)
  6. Underlying Concerns of the Hiring Team (HT), pt 2 OC wont be truly agile and eagerly wear more than one hat (whether that other hat is marketing, technical support, sales, UX, etc) OC will be reluctant to work onsite without an office or cube, and wont contribute spontaneously and synergistically OC will argue based on experience (and bias), while HT will argue based on (untested) possibility OC wont have the same instincts or value system as the products users, insisting that users actually read the doc when, perhaps, theyre used to Googling then cutting-and-pasting code samples. (Maybe) HT fears that age and treachery will always triumph over youth and skill essentially that the OC-HT relationship will turn adversarial because of the cultural differences.
  7. Addressing Employers Age-related Concerns OC may need to anticipate and explain how their work experience will benefit HT and the product, namely: Efficiency past experience in similar situations yields a sixth sense for what works, what users need, and the easiest way to achieve goals Quality past successes and failures help OC to understand and avoid typical pitfalls, recognize the right solution more readily, and deliver with less friction Focus OC can easily tune out noise and apply effort where itll do most good Pacing reluctance to wear oneself out on fire drills, and work steadily and sanely so all commitments get met over the long-term Self-awareness understanding of own strengths and weaknesses, appreciating when to seek help (delegate) and accept suboptimal outcomes without blaming Frankness realistic awareness of own limitations, candid assessment of risks Clarity ability to set clear expectations and not overcommit (then bomb)
  8. How are Older Candidates different? In this recruiters experience, OCs often offer all the advantages listed on this and the previous slide. However, their motivations often differ from those of the HT in important (and entirely valid) ways: Lifestyle matters to OCs more than conformity (i.e., preferring offsite work, separation of work and personal time, professional autonomy) OCs usually lack patience with politics OCs casual/confident attitude can be perceived as disrespect Appearances matter less to OCs. However, as Caesars wife said, Its not enough to be virtuous. You must also look virtuous. OCs EQ (emotional intelligence) is all-important in their managements eyes; if they mis-prioritize, they break trust and valuable alliances. OCs often want credit for what they know, and what they can contribute (regardless of whether they do); but HTs dont like to be lectured. OCs usually have personal lives and little interest in socializing with colleagues of a younger generation OCs value work/life balance, tire faster (and bounce back more slowly), and are more wary of over-extending themselves
  9. Legal, Professional, Cultural Issues to Explore Where do you (technical content developers) think the solution might lie? Can you suggest specific legal, social, professional, or similar solutions that are likely to help bridge the divide? Do you think it best to prove then prosecute ageism, or focus on educating HTs that it is in their interest NOT to ignore this resource? Basically, motivate with fear vs hope? Are OCs doomed to work only on temporary assignments, with no chance to integrate fully with Gen Y teams or reap the full rewards when those teams succeed?