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Editor's Notes

• #2: The problem is your kids and your grandkids will ask you this very question
• #4: Always be ready to make a defense for the hope that is in you
• #5: Be purposeful, conducting yourself with wisdom so you can respond to each person appropriately…
• #6: And we need to be loving, not quarrelsome… With the idea to bring someone to Christ or strengthen their faith.
• #7: -Historians collect reliable past material and eyewitness accounts in order to verify a certain event – they do not test and repeat Reliable eyewitness accounts always take precedent over other forms of evidence Evolution says that dinosaurs evolved from non-dinosaur ancestors around 235 million years ago… however when we find them they are 100% dinosaurs Recall the fossil record consists….
• #8: 95% are Marine 5% are Plants <1% are vertebrates << .05% are land vertebrates So what would you expect to see if there was a catastrophic global flood? Land animals buried catastrophically next to water life
• #9: WE find land animals buried next to marine animals again – obviously dinosaurs were living immediately prior to the flood because we find them trapped in the sediments of the flood
• #10: We have found mummified dinosaurs on top of the sediments of the flood, so obviously they got off the ark.
• #11: We find skin in the fossils that’s still skin – it’s not millions of years old
• #12: We find all sorts of tissues and cells in tact and complete – not fossilized or degraded.
• #13: We find tissues still in tact and pliable – they aren’t 25 millions years old So your question should be….
• #14: We need to start everything we face with a Biblical worldview
• #15: Sea Monster is tanninim – plural form of tannin – that will be important in a few minutes When were pterosaurs created? When were ichthyosaurs created?
• #16: When were t-rexes created? WHY DIDN’T T-REX EAT ADAM AND EVE?
• #17: Why didn’t they eat Adam and Eve – vegetarian (remember pandas have sharp teeth and they eat plants) Remember after the fall, something changed it brought about chaos to creation In that fallen world where death wasn’t supposed to happen, death and murder started Animals began to eat other animals So were there dinosaurs on the Ark??.....
• #18: Were dinosaurs on the Ark? Two of EVERY KIND So why didn’t all the animals eat each other? They were created vegetarian and God brought the animals to Noah, so it’s highly likely they were able to be vegetarian, but if not there was plenty of room for extra food for meat eaters as well penning them up. SO THE BIBLE POINTS TO MAN AND DINOSAURS BEING CONCURRENT But the question comes, why isn’t “dinosaur” in the bible?
• #20: Known as “the bible that changed the world” It is actually the third English translation Commissioned in 1604 by King James I Completed in 1611 DINOSAURS WEREN’T RE-DISCOVERED UNTIL THE LATE 1700s
• #21: Dinosaurs were Rediscovered – Adam saw them first… CLICK Sir Richard Owen superintendent..coined word in 1841 “Dinosaur” hadn’t been invented THE WORD TRINITY ISN’T IN THE BIBLE EITHER But more people believe in the Trinity than Gen 1-11 Does the Bible speak about dinosaurs? And if it does…. What words does it use?
• #22: Remember when we talked about…
• #23: Exception of Dan 2:4b-7:38 written in eastern Aramaic dialect
• #24: 300y before Christ the Torah was translated into Greek by 70 Jewish scholars this is called the Septuagint Denoted in your bibles as LXX Rosetta Stone of Hebrew Most of the titles in the OT came from the Septuagint… Ecclesiastes means preaching 1:1- The words of the Preacher, the son of David, king in Jerusalem SO WHAT WORDS DID THE BIBLE USE?
• #25: So there are four words in the Hebrew Old Testament you need to be acquainted with…
• #26: These words are used to describe some pretty incredible creatures The first two words are confusing –
• #27: So lets look at examples of the words used IN CLOSE PROXIMITY IN JERAMIAH We will start with TAN
• #28: tannim
• #29: Tannim
• #30: tannin
• #31: tannin
• #32: But this is in a book of Prophecy right? You can’t believe everything in there. Some of you are thinking I’m crazy at this point In fact, the KJV translators relied heavily on the LXX and sometimes mistakenly used a mistranslation (like in Jer 9:11) In which case it should have been rendered jackal and has since been corrected.
• #33: Remember, word pictures have to be real to the hearer or else it is worthless and it can’t be understood But maybe they were confused – maybe they didn’t know the difference between a dragon and a snake Lets Go to a book where NOBODY disputes that it is a book of history – Exodus and the story of Moses – one of the most important historical accounts to the Jews – don’t you think they would be extra careful in translating that account?
• #34: Now – I know that this is talking about a snake because I’ve seen “The Ten Commandments”
• #35: First two instances of serpent are tannin
• #36: Serpents is tanninim Makes sense – HAVE YOU EVER SEEN A SNAKE EAT ANOTHER SNAKE LET ALONE TWO??? PRETTY ANTICLIMACTIC Now Dragons getting in a fight – that’s something I’d pay for LEST YOU THINK THEY ARE CONFUSED BECAUSE THEY ARE UNINTELIGENT – DID THEY KNOW THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN SNAKES AND DRAGONS? What is interesting is that this is bookended in Ex 4:3 and 7:15 using the general term for reptile/snake “nachash” So apparently this is just Moses being more specific. Infact, in Is 14:29 it talks about a flying serpent that uses the term “nachash”
• #37: Should be a footnote next to serpents that says LIT dragons
• #38: Serpents - taninim Some of the dinosaurs alluded to are poisonous
• #39: Cobras – peten Translated in the greek as “aspidon” – lit posonous snake like an asp or cobra SO WE SEE THAT THEY KNEW THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN DRAGONS AND SNAKES And apparently this was a poisonous dragon
• #40: They didn’t even try to hide it here – apparently there was a well where dragons hung out. So clearly the Hebrews understood the term “tannin” as a dragon… What about the other words…
• #41: The next word used to describe a dinosaur is behemoth behemot Akin to the superlative in English, behema refers to the plural of beast, behemoth refers to the largest beast in plural form
• #42: Think of what happens when your child questions your judgement Job asks God why he has to suffer – and God uses animals that are all known to him God says Strap it up Job! You think you can teach me???
• #43: And in the list of animals that Job knows and understands, God speaks of behemoth. THIS AINT YOUR PUNY BACKYARD TEXAS NUISANCE THAT MAKES YOU SNEEZE
• #44: Most of your study bibles probably say that God is referring to a Hippopotamus or an elephant The problem is – have you ever seen their tails??
• #45: Sounds like a sauropod dinosar – only thing with a tail like a cedar
• #46: LARGE SAUROPOD DINOSAUR Apatosaurus (what we used to call brontasaurus) His bones are tubes of bronze
• #47: his limbs are like bars of iron There is even another word used to describe them
• #48: Leviathan is a transliteration
• #49: Leviathan here is used as imagery for Satan – but to be clear, it only makes sense if it is real to the reader and the hearer can understand Leviathan is described as a reptile like creature, a dragon that lives in the sea. Let’s look at what the Septuagint translates Leviathan…
• #50: The septuagint translates Leviathan dragon
• #51: Fleeing Serpent is actually “Leviathan nahas” or “dragon snake” in greek Nahas is the general term for reptile in Hebrew
• #52: Dragon is the word tanin But that is prophecy – LETS LOOK AT JOB AGAIN
• #53: GOD USES LEVIATHAN IN A LIST OF REAL ANIMALS WITH REAL DESCRIPTIONS Many of your bibles say that God is talking about an alligator or a crocodile… I’ve seen some pretty not-impressive people wrestle alligators.
• #55: If you look at the details of leviathan it lines up nicely with what we call today a sarcocircus
• #58: Look at the armor of his back- Who can strip off his outer armor? Who can come within his double mail? This also shows another thing about fossils- they are mostly made up. Museum curators don’t get paychecks unless people come in the door so they fain extra pieces of the skeleton so that you don’t know it is missing legs or a lower jaw and it looks better
• #59: This is actually an honest fossil Look underneath Job 41:30 “His underparts are like sharp potsherds” Look at the snout Job 41:18-19 His sneezes flash forth light, Out of his mouth go burning torches; sparks of fire leap forth, Out of his nostrils smoke goes forth that cavern in the snout is likely where the fire came from Like the Bombardier beetle
• #60: Job 41:18-19 His sneezes flash forth light, sparks of fire leap forth, Out of his nostrils smoke goes forth But what about Historical evidence that man and dinosaurs co-existed?
• #61: But what about Historical evidence that man and dinosaurs co-existed?
• #62: Know where scientific research leaves off and non-scientific interpretation begins
• #64: Remember Pavlov’s dog – that was this guy History of the nature of Birds You can actually find his books on google books
• #66: Observations of several singularities and things memorable found in Greece, Asia, Judea, Egypt, Arabia and other foreign countries Got this from Google book – they have thousands of old books that you can browse online This one is from a German family in Amberg
• #67: Hippo attacking a Crockodile
• #68: It is from this book that we know what people in that era wore and what animals were in what area
• #69: He would go around and describe the flora and fauna of the area – here we have two snakes that he saw
• #70: We know he had a good grasp of reptiles because he drew a crocodile and a chameleon
• #71: But from his writings we know that Belon found an armadillo shell in a market in Istanbul – historical evidence that we use to say that discoveries of the Americas were filtering into Arabia And we know that in Egypt he saw … CLICK… a serpent that looked exactly like what we would call a dragon But he wasn’t the only scientist at the time to describe them
• #72: Ulysses Aldrovandi was an italian naturalist who apparently received a specimen in the year 1551 and described it
• #73: Book: Serpents and Dragons the history of the two Ulysse Aldrovandi was an italian naturalist who apparently received a specimen in the year 1551 and described it
• #74: he clearly draws and annotates both snakes and has two pictures of ethiopian dragons What is funny is that in both instances they look just like dimorphodons
• #75: Remember Herodotus when we were talking about Biblical authority?
• #76: In his book “The Histories” He describes a time where He went to Arabia by the city Buto to find out about these “winged serpents” and when he showed up he found tons of their bones. Apparently in spring the dragons would come frlying in towards Egypt through this narrow gorge and were killed by ibises, which explains why the Egyptians hold the ibises in such high reverence.
• #77: Josephus a Jewish historian who was a contemporary of the apostles recounted a legend of Moses in his book Antiquities of the Jews of Moses before leaving Egypt the first time being selected by the Egyptian Royals to lean an army against the Ethiopians but had to overcome flying serpents – he figured out that ibises are a natural enemy to the serpents and took some with the army for protection. Isn’t it interesting that the dragons came from Ethiopia – where Ulysse Aldrovandi got his samples Now we don’t include the works of Josephus in the Bible, nor should we …
• #78: So what are we to make of all this?
• #79: Are there areas where the Bible and history overlap? Wouldn’t it be great if Jesus himself would weigh in on this?
• #80: See now I know the story of Jonah and the “WHALE” right? The problem is Jesus is actually quoting the Septuagint here Matthew actually quotes the Septuagint 90% of the time And here Jesus called the sea monster……
• #81: Ketos – Matt 12:39-40 What’s a Ketos?? See, there are plenty of Greek words that could have been used if He was talking about a whale – ketos is not one of them
• #82: The modern word for whale is “FALAINA” He could have called it a great fish – The most common word for something that swims is ichtus, could hace used the word opsarion And he quoted Jonah 1:17 – so let’s go there and look at that verse
• #83: Ok, Jesus was quoting the Septuagint so let’s see what word was used there
• #84: Now dag is the general term for something that swims in water – remember “Dagon” in 1 Samuel that fell before the ark – he was the fish god Septuagint – people that spoke perfect greek and Hebrew translated that as ketei megalo – or huge ketos See Jesus knew what everyone around understood what a ketos was It was and is an incredibly weighty, specific term in the greek We see it from….
• #85: From homer to Johannes; they all referenced this animal And we see these things depicted all over the world
• #86: Here is one on Greek Pottery
• #87: Here is one on an Asian war elephant’s saddle
• #88: Here is a depiction of Clemens in Germany having an encounter with one
• #89: Here is one 500 years before Christ on a Greek sliver coin
• #90: .Here is one from a book of Benedictine missionaries who accompanied Columbus in the 1600s Book written and illustrated by Benedictine missionaries who accompanied Columbus – Authored by Caspar Plautius- book is full of stuff they saw
• #91: All depicting a ketos from Jonah and the KETOS Maybe Jesus chose not to deliberately mislead us and everyone else around Him and chose to use the word “Ketos” because it really was a Ketos!!! DO WE SEE DRAGONS IN THE FOSSIL RECORD
• #93: What about it?? What does that look like
• #95: The rest of the skeleton is made up Artists get jobs rendering dinosaurs – do you think they would get a job if they made it look like a “dragon” I’m going to show you the skull again
• #97: Dr. Coo-AH-zoh Orthodontist from New Jersey that used his training in cephalometric radiography to correctly reconstruct ancient man He was able to calculate based on his studies that the lifespans of these humans were 250-300 years.
• #98: Dr. Coo-AH-zoh Orthodontist from New Jersey that used his training in cephalometric radiography to correctly reconstruct ancient man He was able to calculate based on his studies that the lifespans of these humans were 250-300 years.
• #99: Dr. Coo-AH-zoh Orthodontist from New Jersey that used his training in cephalometric radiography to correctly reconstruct ancient man