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TIME Teaching scouts how to make better use of it Jim Latimer  Pacific Skyline Council (CA) Jose Lepervanche  North Florida Council (FL) Matt Rosing  Longs Peak Council (CO, WY, NE) Jim Schuster  Northern Star Council (WI, MN)
Motivation At National meeting 45 scoutmasters asked to tackle six problems, ours was Time Scouts have poor time management skills Competing activities are pulling scouts away Scouting is a low priority for older scouts
This is bigger than scouting 44% of undergraduate students fail to graduate They lack motivation and time management skills Lower socio-economic families    Lower rates Ref: William Bowen, Princeton Univ Press This can be very expensive  We can help our sons do better The Boy Scouts is uniquely set up to teach these skills
Goal Teach scouts the skills they need to make their time more rewarding Set and meet their own goals Plan and do an Eagle project without guidance  Organize a week long campout Be the Troop's boating expert Find a skill that gives them great pride Create their own opportunity
Outline Wing and a prayer In the usual Scouting Tradition, we're making it up as we go This is an iterative process Some troops already do parts of this This is where we found these ideas First: Skills to Learn Next: Method of Teaching
Skills to learn Time Management Keep track of commitments, do them Goal Setting Setting simple goals Setting goals as a patrol Planning More complex goals  events, PORs For older scouts
Time Management Scouts keep track of  all  commitments This runs three months out Mom is not the calendar (but mom can help) Updated constantly They need to look ahead and plan accordingly Will take months to make it habit The reward: less panic and missed opportunity
Goal Setting Individual and by patrol Set quarterly, coincide with COH, PL tenure Goals are SMART Simple planning: Ask questions: Where, When, What resources, Who will help. Discipline: The goal is set, now do it Approved by PL, SPL, Mentor
Planning Skills Breaking down complex tasks Creating schedules Presenting plans for approval Managing others to stay on task Fixing problems Some of this falls under leadership skills
These Skills Complement the  Methods of Scouting Patrols  Teamwork, patrol goals Personal Growth -  Leadership Development  More skills to lead Outdoor Program  More adventure Association with adults  Mentor/Coach
Method of Teaching  Mentoring/Coaching EDGE - Or maybe EDGGGGEEEEEEEEE Part of the culture You keep doing it, this is not a one time deal Stages of change: anger, denial, forgetfulness, grudge, acceptance Introducing this to a troop Younger Scouts Patrols Older Scouts
For Younger Scouts Their objective is to set and achieve goals quarterly Time Management The calendar is the focal point Requires a lot of one on one mentoring  Parents? How to train them? Quarterly goals By patrol? SM Conf? Use older scouts? All adults must buy in and help
For Patrols Goals  Set quarterly, or tenure of PL Nontrivial - Patrol outings, service projects, skills Accommodate patrol members  Advancement, fun Simple planning: Who, what, where, when, ... Assign responsibilities Create a calendar Execution: Keep focused, communicate
For Older Scouts All older scouts are expected to help out Evens the load Builds comaradarie Keeps older scouts engaged Younger scouts look up to them Scouts do tasks that serve scouting Scouts might not like this, at first
Planning Tasks should start out simple Examples include teaching skills, organizing campouts, setting up demos for webelos, projects at camporees or OA Eventually as open as an Eagle project Scouts are encouraged to find their own Help them out Be flexible on what is acceptable Match tasks to personalities Account for busy schedules
Where we're at A few troops are starting to try this out We need a few more We will have either a website at National or a Google site to share ideas We are using Best Practice ideas, so we welcome yours
Questions? Feedback? Join us?
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  • 1. TIME Teaching scouts how to make better use of it Jim Latimer Pacific Skyline Council (CA) Jose Lepervanche North Florida Council (FL) Matt Rosing Longs Peak Council (CO, WY, NE) Jim Schuster Northern Star Council (WI, MN)
  • 2. Motivation At National meeting 45 scoutmasters asked to tackle six problems, ours was Time Scouts have poor time management skills Competing activities are pulling scouts away Scouting is a low priority for older scouts
  • 3. This is bigger than scouting 44% of undergraduate students fail to graduate They lack motivation and time management skills Lower socio-economic families Lower rates Ref: William Bowen, Princeton Univ Press This can be very expensive We can help our sons do better The Boy Scouts is uniquely set up to teach these skills
  • 4. Goal Teach scouts the skills they need to make their time more rewarding Set and meet their own goals Plan and do an Eagle project without guidance Organize a week long campout Be the Troop's boating expert Find a skill that gives them great pride Create their own opportunity
  • 5. Outline Wing and a prayer In the usual Scouting Tradition, we're making it up as we go This is an iterative process Some troops already do parts of this This is where we found these ideas First: Skills to Learn Next: Method of Teaching
  • 6. Skills to learn Time Management Keep track of commitments, do them Goal Setting Setting simple goals Setting goals as a patrol Planning More complex goals events, PORs For older scouts
  • 7. Time Management Scouts keep track of all commitments This runs three months out Mom is not the calendar (but mom can help) Updated constantly They need to look ahead and plan accordingly Will take months to make it habit The reward: less panic and missed opportunity
  • 8. Goal Setting Individual and by patrol Set quarterly, coincide with COH, PL tenure Goals are SMART Simple planning: Ask questions: Where, When, What resources, Who will help. Discipline: The goal is set, now do it Approved by PL, SPL, Mentor
  • 9. Planning Skills Breaking down complex tasks Creating schedules Presenting plans for approval Managing others to stay on task Fixing problems Some of this falls under leadership skills
  • 10. These Skills Complement the Methods of Scouting Patrols Teamwork, patrol goals Personal Growth - Leadership Development More skills to lead Outdoor Program More adventure Association with adults Mentor/Coach
  • 11. Method of Teaching Mentoring/Coaching EDGE - Or maybe EDGGGGEEEEEEEEE Part of the culture You keep doing it, this is not a one time deal Stages of change: anger, denial, forgetfulness, grudge, acceptance Introducing this to a troop Younger Scouts Patrols Older Scouts
  • 12. For Younger Scouts Their objective is to set and achieve goals quarterly Time Management The calendar is the focal point Requires a lot of one on one mentoring Parents? How to train them? Quarterly goals By patrol? SM Conf? Use older scouts? All adults must buy in and help
  • 13. For Patrols Goals Set quarterly, or tenure of PL Nontrivial - Patrol outings, service projects, skills Accommodate patrol members Advancement, fun Simple planning: Who, what, where, when, ... Assign responsibilities Create a calendar Execution: Keep focused, communicate
  • 14. For Older Scouts All older scouts are expected to help out Evens the load Builds comaradarie Keeps older scouts engaged Younger scouts look up to them Scouts do tasks that serve scouting Scouts might not like this, at first
  • 15. Planning Tasks should start out simple Examples include teaching skills, organizing campouts, setting up demos for webelos, projects at camporees or OA Eventually as open as an Eagle project Scouts are encouraged to find their own Help them out Be flexible on what is acceptable Match tasks to personalities Account for busy schedules
  • 16. Where we're at A few troops are starting to try this out We need a few more We will have either a website at National or a Google site to share ideas We are using Best Practice ideas, so we welcome yours

Editor's Notes

  • #2: Who we are How we got together What they volunteered us for
  • #3: We quickly came up with these issues Competing activities-sports, competitive band, Lego Robotics, theater, karate, ... there are many more activities going on than there used to be Scouting is a 48 week season. It's becoming second and third on the list of extracurricular activities for too many scouts Older scouts have even more problems. They're trying to figure out what they want to do in life. It's not enough to just have fun and it's hard to have fun after years of camporees
  • #4: I'm not sure if you want to put this in or not. It's just an ominous statistic that says we're working on the right problem This second part is good: Boy Scouts is unique, we can solve this problem: Our focus is values, not the score We can work with boys much longer than a teacher The boys lead, not the coach or teacher We have a bigger playing field (the outdoors) We have a much broader scope, more flexibility We can do longer term projects We have fun
  • #5: That's the problem, Now for our goal The goal is to give scouts the skills to take control of their own time. They shouldn't wait for the teacher, or coach to tell them what to do Younger scouts - achieve their own goals Older scouts organize and plan bigger projects that help the troop Rather than wait for opportunity, they should create it This is where you want to be. How to get there is a different problem
  • #6: Outline of the rest of the talk we're not sure what the best method of reaching goal we will try, make mistakes, try again We've talked to a lot of SMs and most of what we have is from them First talk about skills to learn then talk about how to teach them
  • #7: There are three types of skills Tenderfoot level: time management, keeping track of commitments. This is hard for 11 year olds First Class level: setting and achieving simple goals. Star level: goals for a patrol Eagle level: organize complex events, needs leadership. This is for older scouts These skills build on each other You can't set goals if you don't know what you're responsible for. You can't organize a high adventure trip if you can't set personal goals. Now talk about the three types of goals
  • #8: First skill is time management Scouts keep track of their commitments Includes everything inside and outside of scouts needs to run months into the future mom updates, requires discipline resolve conflicts can require mentoring they need to plan their spare time. Campout this weekend, so get the homework done early reward: less stress over time issues The picture is from The Time Tunnel a 60's sci-fi tv show
  • #9: Once a scout can manage the activities given to him, he can add his own. This is goal setting First are individual goals, set quarterly, COH Next, set goals by patrol, requires teamwork Goals are SMART: Specific, Measurable, Attainable, Relevant, Timely. Goals require some planning: who, what, where, when Challenge is discipline in following through. Will take months/ years to learn to set reasonable goals. Approval is part of learning process
  • #10: Once a scout can set simple goals, ready for more complex goals, requires more planning This is for older scouts, requires maturity (15, 16?) Planning skills... The tasks the scouts work on should mostly fit into a 3 month time frame. Simpler than an Eagle project, but close enough
  • #12: We know the problem, the goal, and the skills we want to teach the scouts. Now talk about how to do this. All the skills are based on 1 or 3 month schedules Need to use EDGE, but it will take many iterations You don't learn how to cook or camp the first time you do it, this is the same. It has to become part of the culture of the troop Will be push back, change is hard But, introduce in 3 places, younger scouts, patrols, older scouts
  • #13: By younger, we mean anyone not in a position of responsibility. All scouts need to learn this. Time management is first skill It includes everything in and out of scouts Need someone familiar with all of it Probably need parents help How do we train them? Setting goals quarterly is second Scout related goals so can do this in the troop By patrol could be easiest, older scouts eventually Will take a lot of adult help. This is not one ASMs job. All of the adults in the troop need to buy in.
  • #14: Patrols are used to teach team goals. This is nothing new for Boy Scouts Goals have a limited time to be completed. Tenure of PL. Goals should be nontrivial. SPL sets boundaries. Accommodate goals of scouts Patrol Leader does planning, assign responsibilities, create schedule. Next: ensure execution. Keep scouts on task and communicate The PL should have experience at setting and achieving his own goals. Might not always happen
  • #15: All older scouts help out this is a change from the norm. Helps everyone: Many hands make light work. Builds camaraderie among older scouts. Many SMs: best way to keep older scouts engaged Younger scouts look up to older scouts more than adults Scouts do tasks to help troop or council, instructing, organizing events, ... Some older scouts don't like change. Some adults in the troop like it less. Will need early success.
  • #16: In order for the scouts to be successful they need training Their tasks should start off simple and work up in complexity. Simple tasks include... Eventually the tasks could be as open as an Eagle project This gives the scout the skills to do an Eagle project Scouts should be given freedom to pick their own project. As long as they are engaged and giving service to the troop then it's a win. Encourage them to do their thing Adapt to their schedules Adapt to their personalities